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RE: maggies internal wiring

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In Reply to: RE: maggies internal wiring posted by �a plane pour moi on September 16, 2010 at 02:34:10

Bonjour,

Je suis Americain et j'ai un crayon rouge.

Yep about the extent of the French I speak.

1. A & D. Here is a link that has some picts that will probably answer both questions. Scroll down a bit and see how they handled things:

http://www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/tweaks/EAR/

1. B. Yes the common wisdom is that resistance will diminish the amps ability to control the woofer. But that doesnt apply to mags IME. Anyone who has tried 24g or higher magnet wire on the bass drivers has reported "QUICKER" better controlled bass. Of the choices you mention, I would go with the thinnest myself, and use 28g mag wire on my bass driver at the moment. And I did rewire my old sub with 25g magwire (4 runs of 30g) and it definitely quickened up.

here is an example : http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=mug&n=147292&highlight=magnet+Hoshi

Pictureguy has a theory that the thin wire and its resistance makes the amp behave like a current source and that is why it works well on mags.

1. C. Not sure but I dont think it is a huge deal. IMHO the gauge and type of conductor will make more difference.

No one here remembers the bending of our minds

Follow Ups:

You wild and crazy guy! - RickeyM 06:14:42 09/19/10 (1)
Everyone KNOWS you use the 22ga mag wire on the woofer and the 26ga om the mids/tweeters.

Seriously though, I think it has more to do with better quality conductors (solid core copper vs the stock junk) and fewer connections in the signal path. Right now my 2.5's have 22ga mag wire going from the binding posts to the solder points of the woofer panel wires and 26ga mag wire from the tweeter binding posts to the ribbon terminals. The wiring is clamped under the terminal like the ribbon wire and not soldered.
- RE: You wild and crazy guy! - Dawnrazor 20:02:10 09/20/10 (0)
  Hey Rick,
  
  Everyone KNOWS you use the 22ga mag wire on the woofer and the 26ga om the mids/tweeters.
  
  LOL. I dont even know the numbers!
  
  OK, yes the bass is 27g I think as that is what double runs of 30g yields.
  
  I had been saying it was 28g, but I think it is closer to 27g...what is a single gauge amongst friends??
  
  For the tweets, I dont know. I really dont. They are some thin foils, as thin as mcmaster carr had. Say about 1/2 inch wide or so.
  
  That was so long ago. Now I have in my head that symmetry is key, and both panels should get the same wire, so I will change this all one day I think. It is an active thing i say.
  
  No one here remembers the bending of our minds
RE: maggies internal wiring - pictureguy 14:18:49 09/18/10 (0)
Thanks, DR, for correct quote:

Yep, that's my theory. Maggies probably sound REAL good with a proper tube amp. Not the least of the good characteristics of panels is the fact that it is a low reactance load. I'd suspect that for my application, a Dynaco Stereo 70 would work. But I'd be more comfortable at about the 100watt level (3x the Dynaco)......given some of the voltages I've measured.

Now, that being said, why would you want some huge wires INSIDE your panels? In a run of a few feet, the resistance will add up, like speaker runs. For internal wiring? Look how tiny the capacitor wires are. Look how short the runs are. TOTAL resistance of the line is what counts more than sheer current carrying capacity.

Naw, IMO you're fooling yourself if you think that big internal wires will make much or any difference. Especially given the state of everything else in the signal chain. Look in your amp? Look at your room? ICs? Power to the works?

Look at that nasty, tiny fuse wire. Good news? It's only 1" long. (removing this POS apparently helps.....lots)

If you saw some of the cheesy stuff used in some highly regarded, hi-end, COSTLY speakers, you would flip.
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