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Dear all,
Howdy! Need some advice & experience if possible. I have some bits of Kimber KCAG silver interconnects lying around growing old doing nothing. For some reason they have been decapitated from the interconnect plugs. And i plan to mod my MMG crossovers soon.
I was wondering if the KCAG would be ok to use as a replacement for the stock 4 color wires that are used to wire the crossover together. I use Gotham copper speaker cable,to hook up the speakers to the power amp, they're excellent, and cheap.
Many thanks.
WF.
This rovers crossed over
to the >>>SUNNY<<< side of the street
Follow Ups:
Thanks for the input everyone, i'll give some feedback once i put the cable in.
Really appreciative,
WF
This rovers crossed over
to the >>>SUNNY<<< side of the street
WF,
I would try it. Sure I could point out problems like the stranded construction, but hey it doesnt cost you to try it, and it has to be better than what is there. The braid and silver might be a good thing in this application.
Personally I use very thin 28g magwire between the crossover and the speaker and I wouldnt worry about the gauge myself. The wires in the mags are just as thin and run for hundreds of feet...
No one here remembers the bending of our minds
DR:
I meant to post this yesterday, but got too busy with work. Of course you're right- he should definitely try it if he just has the wire lying around!(that's really expensive wire to have lying around!) Also the lengths are quite short , so DC resistance shouldn't be a problem.
I replied to that post before I'd had my coffee, lol!
LOL.
I usually drink green tea with very little caffeine but was in a bind and bought some Chai tea with more caf. Well I found myself "needing" that chai so I stopped doing it.
I'll admit that I have a different take on the dc resistance thing. I know it is textbook to use big fat wire, but those who try the thin stuff on mags typically stay with it, at least if it is magwire. And that is for 5-8ft runs.
The thing I cant get my head around is why some 12g wire would allow all kind of current to pass when after that wire is hundreds of ft of what looks like 28g aluminum wire or so. But then an inmate I forget who posted that using such thin wire turns the amp into a current source which might explain why thin magwire can sound so good on the mags, even though that theory (that thin wire makes an amp a current source) makes little sense to me.
All I know is that I ditched my Kimber 4tc for some thin thin wire and never looked back.
No one here remembers the bending of our minds
DR:
I have a friend who uses the very low powered S.E.X. amp on a pair of Edgarhorns, the smaller model that stands appx. 4~5 feet tall. He uses the thin mag wire for speakers cables and it sounds fantastic.
Aren't the Speltz Anti-Cables magwire? I'd heard they work well on Maggies...hmmm
In reference to the 'current source' behavior: I used to have a Sunfire TGA-5200 5x400w into 4 Ohms as my amp. The "current source" outputs definitely sounded smoother and sweeter to me, if a bit less controlled at the bottom end. I ended up driving the woofer panels of my 1.5QR with the voltage source of the two "rear" channels, and the QR's with the left and right main channels on their current source outputs. Not the best imaging ever, but sweet and punchy and man oh man, the dynamics!
I believe I read an article where Bob Carver said the only real difference in the two outputs was in output impedance. Maybe the magwire emulates this somehow...
It would be interesting if one of our tech-saavy friends (Andyr, Satie, Al Sekela are you there?) could shed some light.
I am cutting down on the caffiene; almost to the point where I don't need the morning jolt anymore, but sometimes...
WF:
The short answer is maybe.:-) The wires in the x-over are appx. 14ga., I believe. The interconnect wires are usually much smaller, on the order of 32ga. or thereabouts. I used the DH Labs 14ga. T14 Silver Sonic in my x-overs. It's priced reasonably and very high quality IMO. It's combination of copper and silver seems to work well on Maggies. IIRC, PG uses or used to use this in his x-overs. In any case, you usually will need something far heavier than interconnect cable in the x-over wiring. What gauge is the wire in the KCAG? If it's heavy enough you could probably use it, from a purely electrical standpoint.
The Kimber wire is either 20 gauge or 22 gauge. My cutter snips off the isulation with the 20 gauge hole, My smaller wire cutters is currently at this moment 'whereabouts unknown', so I cannot verify the 20 vs 22, as my big cutter only goes down to 20. the wire rattles around in the 20 gauge hole so I would bet the farm on 22 gauge.
THis was using raw Kimber silver wire scrap.
Elizabeth:
That is good info, thanks. Is the 20~22ga. used in the interconnect the same wire as the wire in their speaker cable? Just wondering... If it is, sure sounds like it could work for those short lengths.
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