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In Reply to: RE: This must be tough for you to accept, but Zelenskyy has no cards left to play. posted by ghost of olddude55 on March 11, 2025 at 13:51:10
If one day you feel the desire to learn a bit more than what the prime time news tells you about Ukraine, we might talk.
But it is a big subject... you can't learn it from a few one liners.
Follow Ups:
It should be as plain as the nose on your face. Ukraine can't beat Russia without US help and Zelenskyy can't count on the US anymore.
He can't count on Europe either. The Far Right in Europe is pro-Russia and it's on the verge of gaining power in Germany, France, and the UK.
The White House turned on the aid spigot again today but that valve can be just as easily closed tomorrow.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
1. Yes, Ukraine can beat russia without US help, provided there is strong European one. Which is beginning to happen.
2. The current momentum in Europe is strongly in Ukrainian favor.
3. Ukraine lived for SEVEN MONTHS without US help. Did it crumble during that time? My memory it telling me NO.
Do you think trump will accept the role of the benched player?
Do you really think EU will step up and help Ukraine?
I am not seeing this... So far all tough talk but nothing happens.
It takes too long to get their shit together. Germany finally promised to spend more in defence but they do not even have a government yet. The NL MP just shot down €800bn defence spending plan. I am not surprised if other EU countries follow suit.
I read that EU has nothing to give to Ukraine till they ramp up the productions. How can they fight without ammos?
They are already doing it.It is going to take some time to get there, but they are moving and the proper dynamics are there. Why do you think Rheinmentall is building factories in Ukraine?
The re-arming drive is going to cover not just Ukraine, but also the other vulnerable countries such as the Baltics.
It is going to be a painful period, but the Ukrainians have shown the world what they can do. No one predicted they would hold for more than a few days, and they are still there and fighting, and their strikes are getting more and more painful.
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Your Nazis are losing approximately 20 sq. kilometers a day and "advancing" steadily backwards.
and push it back behind Ural mountain range.
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See which fills up fastest.
I have no idea what it means, and they didn't either, but you've got a lot of wishful thinking there.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
The fat shit already tried that once. Yes, more Ukrainians died as result... he had nothing else to show for it. That murderous piece of shit...
But then the Soviets regrouped and Finland realized it was going to lose and made peace.
Ukraine made a good showing on its own at the beginning but it was never going to last. Russia's bigger, has more people, can sustain more casualties, can build more weapons.
The European center and center-right parties are zombies. They're dead but they don't know it yet. And the Euro Far Right is pro-Russia.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
This war is in its early stages.
You are wrong treating it as some border conflict, you will be surprised in 2-3 years.
People in the US will be walking around with "who farted" looks on their faces wondering how things went so bad so fast. Ukraine will be the farthest thing from our minds.
The Finns held out for a few months, scored some impressive victories at the beginning, which led Hitler to believe that the Red Army would be a pushover.
But Finland wasn't getting outside help.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Not everyone here sees the world the way you do.
The US is becoming Russia. Fall out of favor with The Man, you better make your hat.
My wife and I are gonna renew our passports while we still can. I'm giving serious thought to getting the hell out. I'm eligible for Italian citizenship. Once granted, we could live anywhere in the EU. Spain would be my choice.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Lot of Europeans there.
Head North, you're already used to similar weather and the Canadians ain't that bad.
Yet.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Nt
Follow your gut and do what's best for you and your wife.
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It's likely there will be no future there and US will be in much better situation just becuase it is US which is pulling the strings not EU. There is an opinion that US will start to cannibalize it's vasals economies to keep itself from sinking. This is what we are observing now in some beginning stages.
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