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Sadly, you're still hung up on the man....

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In Reply to: RE: It's probably the least "so-called" Woke film of the lot. posted by RGA on March 18, 2023 at 02:25:19

I get it. You hate many politicians and then transfer that hate into anyone that might vote for them. That doesn't correlate to those voters being racists, bigot, xenophobes, homophobes and so on.
Personally, I don't like the man. However, I do prefer his policies over the other man. Still, I hope he goes away.
What I see is a lot of divisive propaganda accusing everyone that isn't on your team as a racist, wannabe fascist, book-burner, homophobic, and bully.
You believe that MAGA equates to white nationalist, fascist, etc. That's not it at all. It's the big lie. The populist movement is all about America first, all of America, including black, brown, red, yellow and white. Folks are fed up with foreign wars, globalism, illegal immigration and the US playing the world cop on our dime. Let Europe take care of Europe. Instead, let's fix our infrastructure, be energy independent and fix the border issues and take care of Americans with good education, health care and jobs.

-Rod

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RE: Sadly, you're still hung up on the man.... - RGA 22:30:58 03/18/23 (0)
I never had the issue with prior Republican presidents - I disagreed with all of them (and Clinton who was a DINO) and of course, Regan referred to black people as monkeys so there was that but it was the 1980s.

I disagree with you on policies - for instance, Trump was utterly horrible as a president in all the "duties of the presidency" as well. But if he were Reagan or Bush Senior - I would just be in the agree-to-disagree camp. As both sides only look at the stats that make their team look good and will make excuses as to why the other team is bad. Biden had more jobs created than any president in my lifetime - the counter-argument will be those jobs came back after the pandemic. That sort of thing.

I view all Stock market stuff to be beyond whatever the president does - has next to zero impact on that.

So it comes down to the Office being a beacon of civility and a world example. That's why I am so hung up on the man.

People think I am anti-American but it's the opposite - I grew up a big fan of the US - and it so FRUSTRATES me that one person can make my second favourite land after my home a world laughing stock and hear people abroad making fun of the US constantly. It's Sad. Biden is restoring that reputation by being a boring beurocrat. But DeSantis is coming and your reputation goes right back into the gutter if that horrific excuse for a man is elected.
Trump didn't none of the things you're talking about. - Feanor 11:47:44 03/18/23 (1)
Rod M., " Instead, let's fix our infrastructure, be energy independent and fix the border issues and take care of Americans with good education, health care and jobs. "
These things would be great but Trump did none of them. He didn't even try and, I'm quite sure, never intended to -- that's why he is a fraud.
MAGA is a mega-delusion.

Dmitri Shostakovich

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- RE: Trump didn't none of the things you're talking about. - RGA 22:48:20 03/18/23 (0)
  To be fair - Bernie Sanders and others on the left (Bernie is independent) have noted that the Democrats do this to themselves - the fact that they can't convince people in the middle class and lower class not to vote for them (and against their own self-interest) is pretty telling.
  
  The rich tend to be conservative - lower taxes means more money in their pockets) and not being given to the poor (who are all lazy in their worldview). You are going to have a tough time convincing people with money to give more of it away. Especially when in fact there ARE lazy pricks out there mooching off the system.
  
  I see it as a teacher. Kid is pretty bright but does nothing because he has millionaire parents - he fails all his exams. Shows up to school with a new smartphone every 3 months. They live in government-subsidized housing which is really inexpensive - so the family can buy expensive clothes and phones and cars.
  
  So it pisses people off like me who have to work hard to get a degree and has no wealthy support to help me do it largely on my own.
  
  So I kind of understand the fiscal conservative stance on this kind of thing. They want people to take responsibility for themselves. Albeit I am not sure why they are always happy to give money to billionaires without making them pay it back or why they said nothing when Trump gave $6 trillion to bail out the Stock market in May 2020. It seems to me to be socialism for the wealthy class and rugged individualism for the poor. They'll raise the debt ceiling three times under Trump but moan about it for Biden. Granted that's politics. 7 banks failed under Trump his overturning Obama policy caused it but crickets. Adding 14 of all US National debt was incurred in just 4 years of Trump - crickets. Good with the financials just has never been true.
RE: Sadly, you're still hung up on the man.... - greyscale 10:54:56 03/18/23 (0)
BIG +1
MAGA - make all gregarious again /nt - Story 09:00:17 03/18/23 (0)

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