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Discount Tire has their Prez Day sale for 4 days. I just unloaded for a set of Pirelli Scorpion All-Season Plus 3's for my Mazda CX-5. I take this buggy off pavement at times, so I wanted a stouter sidewall.
For the set, these cost approx $300 more than cheapo brands, of which there are many. Searching around, there are tires out there that no one hears of. I figure pro-rated over 3-4 years, the savings is not worth it. The car came with Toyo A36's, which ride nice, but do nothing else well.
If you are military or former, they give a 5% discount. If you get their charge card, there is more discount, but I'm shy about those things.
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Continental Terran Contact.So far excellent.
Gsquared
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Just put v-rated Kumho on the wifes Mazda6. 17" wheel......
Excellent 2nd tier tire which on my 'Lament was set to go 45,000 miles when the rains came and I chickened out and changed early....
Too much is never enough
Conti ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus - a super-tire, great on dry, wet or in snow.
I was impressed with the reports from that tire, and almost bought some, but decided to buy american after reading a couple of revolution per mile statistics that indicated a smaller diameter with that tire than what came on my car.
But the circumference information was so inconsistent throughout the internet that I felt it couldn't be trusted. So I discounted those reports, but the question still lingered, once the doubt was sown.
if anything I would have favored a larger tire, since my car is geared kind of low in the rear, while at the same time being overpowered, so a taller final gear result wouldn't have bothered me at all. It eats gas around town, because I am the type to wind it out into the upper power band before shifting.
On the positive side, I don't have to worry much about valve deposit build up.
I also considered that, realistically, with my old man needs, any high line tire would be more than enough, and pretty much interchangeable in satisfaction, so in the end, my great affection for the Goodyear blimp became a real buying trigger over other brands, as silly as that seems.
You see, I live in an area close to the base for one of the blimps, so have enjoyed them up in the sky since childhood, when my dad, a bomber pilot in WW2, taught me to scan the skies and identify aircraft, back when aircraft were fewer, and still kind of a big deal for a kid.
Even today, seeing the blimp in a giant power slide across the entire bright clear blue sky of a windy spring day , maneuvering against a strong onshore wind , is just straight pleasure to me.
Besides , the hot rod guys like the looks of the square bottomed Goodyear from behind better than the rounded Michelin profile from the same view. And since I sometimes go down to the local weekly cruise in by the harbor, although not a gear head, would prefer not to be style disadvantaged among that crowd. I have a friend that is hard core gear head, right down to his Christmas tree decorations, but is so cheap, I am sure he just runs whatever appropriate tire costs less. He would notice such a detail.
I am OCD enough to like all my instrumentation to be as accurate as possible, so that gnats worth of concern about correct mileage and speedo calibration was added into forming my buying decision of getting Goodyear tires, since the car came on goodyear OEM. Although Igor a vastly different tire, I figured it might be close to the same diameter, since the available data on every tire tire brand was so inconsistent, it was hard to know.
Don't worry about speed-o error.
Tire Factory website should list Revs Per Mile by size and based on a certain rim width......They USED to list this information.......But apparently the Bridgestone site is now 'dumbed down'.....
And the rest has been made opaque by BS and excessive analysis....
Too much is never enough
Plus the tire wear and pressure also affect it.
But we are talking small differences anyway. I love the Conties because they are excellent on dry and wet road (not far behind the Pilot Super Sport), and pretty good on snow and ice, so I don't have to screw around with snow tires. They are good enough so I can drive in the winter and take my steep hill with several inches of fresh snow on it. Plus they have long life - all that stuff together make it just what I need these days.
The CX-5 has 19" wheels. The specs call for 19-225/55 tires, but I ran 235's for the heck of it. A more common size; sometimes cheaper.
A Mazda service rep said that at an indicated 70 mph, I was actually traveling 71.4 mph because of the taller sidewall -- 55% of the additional 10 mm of tread width -- calculated out onto the rolling circumference. He had a full chart of these numbers.
Next time you are on highway, set your cruise control to 70mph and see that the GPS shows - it is the most accurate speed sensor.
Yes, a larger tire will mean higher speed, but normally, if you select reasonably, your shift will still be swamped by the speedo inaccuracy.
1 or 2mph shift makes absolutely no difference in real life.
And I don't mind that.
I usually set the cruise control by gps speed when on long drives.
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
...is about +5%, plus 6mph, but no negative.
For instance, it can read 10mph higher, but never lower.
Years ago (pre gps) a friend had a car that read under by more than 10%.
Friendly police helped him work that out :-(
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
Say, for 15 over.
He got a ticket despite protesting he wasn't speeding.
But then, at his request the police car followed him for a half a mile or so and pulled him over again to tell him how fast he going. The cop was really nice about it all, but didn't take the ticket back.
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
Having Pirellis previously, I chose to stay with them. Had Contis in past and loved those well. Similar money.
I had OEM Conti Sport Contact 6's on my Audi. Those wore out quick and I replaced them with Michelin Pilot 4s's. The Michelins are MUCH quieter. The downside for me was having to clean out the garage, since they aren't rated for weather below 40°. I live in Silly Valley, so no snow or ice, but we get some low 30's here (like now!)
No idea how long these will last, soft Summer compound so not long. I hope when I do have to replace them there are some tires in stock, pandemic tire shopping was not fun, I was lucky to get the Michelins. Maybe I'll go with an A/S tire and move my stuff from storage back to the garage. I don't really need a performance Summer tire, all I do is chauffeur my daughter to the ice rink and school.
G-Force Comp 2 all season. Well worth the money, because they ain't bad in snow either.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
The BFGs on my 2001 Hyundai were coded Michelin, Japan.
The other thing to check is the date code. Three of my latest set of Bridgestones had a reasonable date code; like within the same year as purchase. The 4th one was way older; like a year and a half out.
My understanding is that "BF Goodrich" on tires is just a Marque owned by Michelin, France.
I bought tires from Sams several times until I learned about the date codes. Some of the tires I bought at Sams were several years old when they were installed.
Both owned by Michelin.
My BFs are made in the US. All four have DOT codes ending in "3220." Guess that means they were made in 2020. I actually got them in June of 2021, not 2022. Had wicked bronchitis that day.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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I was liking the Pirelli line when I was shopping for tires, since for me a high line company is the only way to go, because the tire is the major component that will effect your experience with the car, and in case of emergency, the performance, outside of ride quality, that you usually don't need, will be appreciated.
I first started a relationship with pirelli as a child, when I got some surplus Italian army swim fins, and know how respected their bicycle tires are, which is probably the most demanding tire market, where tires mean a lot.
I was really wanting to pursue getting tires from them, since their unique to the industry performance line has a rear tread optimized for putting down the power, with the fronts optimized for handling , which mimicked the set up my used car came with, using mixed Kumho's treads , which I thought was kind of slick.
Plus they offered an internal sound dampening band , something mounted inside to absorb vibration, while still offering comparable weight. Obviously a company motivated to keep in the forefront of a very technically driven market.
which is pretty much a necessity with Michelin playing in your backyard.
Unfortunately, they didn't make my size, and instead of the usual Michelins all the other guys buy, I went Goodyear, for a couple of good reasons , one of which was a very slight possible advantage if I needed a tire when touring, everything was american made, and I didn't want to chance of having to wait for a Michelin front tire to come in from Malta. I have been touring in rural america before, and was influenced by the recurring, and current to my purchase, stories of guys with my mixed tire size having difficulty getting Michelin tires. But my primary buying triggers were much stronger.
I hurried to complete my buying transaction , just a couple of days before a 75 dollar rebate expired. That rebate was replaced when it expired, the very next day, with a $100 dollar rebate , what else.
I'm on my second set. The first set for around 50K miles.
Grippy enough, quiet, long lasting.
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
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Very safe for rough roading, but a bit rough for safe roading.
The Plus 3's are a new version, so maybe a tad softer. If not, then still a good purchase, according to write-ups.
My daughter is looking to replace her (our) '08 Accord. The CX-5 is tops on our list, based only on walk arounds, reviews and our budget.
I like that it doesn't have a CVT.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
A very quiet suv comparatively. The Toy RAV4 is a competitor, but is noisier in-cabin. They want you to buy their more expensive Lexus to get the lower decibels.
The trans is 6-speed; fewer gears than others, but seems adequate. Fewer gears means less breakage imo. The awd seems fine and is seamless. I don't like that, but no issues with it. I want more input to engaging that system. Normal op is front wheel drive.
Mine is a non-turbo version of their 2.5 liter 4-cyl. The power is adequate, but not exciting in the least. Of course more would be better; no turbo available in my 2017 model, but I wonder if I would buy it? An extra ten grand for it, and I have no data about its longevity. The standard FI motor is well regarded.
I've had this suv off-pavement many times, and off-road a few times. It's not a Jeep, but I've used it to explore some remote places.
Reliability is key and Mazda seems to have that going for them.
It'll be a daily driver and will go on occasional 3 to 4 hour trips. Nothing terribly challenging, other than New England winters, and if this year is a sign of things to come, winters won't be an issue.
Next step is to drive one. We've got two dealers nearby and both with decent stock of used CX-5s, ranging from 10K miles to 80K and everything in between.
Thanks again.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
Very comfy interior, as well as quiet. The suspension is dialed in well. The motor is larger than most; well suited for sustained driving. I drove coast to coast with it, and it didn't break a sweat. Me either.
like everything else , CVT have improved to be a non issue, according to the car guys I listen to on public radio. These are not some folksy shill directing people to selected car lots for "special" deals, but rather independent writers in the industry, with one , Vaughn, contributing regularly to Auto week.
Of course ,I do not question your opinion on the subject, just wanted to add the information for those who might not have formed any opinion on the device. I suppose there are still some primitive devices out there, if I remember they were discussing the subject in passing , using as examples a few new models as greatly improved and comparable to any other design, but with the aim of better economy.
Not sure what the differences are between the CX-5 and brand new CX-50 but there's info on the internets.If you click on the gallery photo then the Right-Arrow on each photo, each new screen will also describe some differences.
Beginning Link below:
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Same car really. I don't get why they make it, other than catering to fools like me who use their 5's off pavement. And for that, I'm doing just fine with my CX-5.
Maybe if it had skid plates, larger radiator, battery, body armor, ...
Thanks for the link, which cleared up a few questions.
Neither of us care for the new styling and our budget is better aligned with a used (certified) CX-5.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
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