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In Reply to: RE: Best Horns for Phantom Center Channel? posted by cin5 on March 05, 2025 at 01:20:59
My only advice is that a phantom center cannot duplicate what you have with a real center.
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You have to experience Tom's Synergy horns to believe it. It's uncannily counterintuitive.
Without fail, I've had to disconnect the center channel, when doing 2.2 Music Demos, because EVERYONE thinks the center channel is on when the center voice or saxophone, or whatever is mixed to center, proving that a strong visual can fool your ears. Sounds like the TV screen is a speaker because it has the unused center under it (just for AV Movies 5.1 and above. They all simply can't believe their ears.
I had Klipshorns with a center LaScala for 30 years before I discovered SPL TD-1's which had the same effect, so I'm no stranger to your point.
My Architect/bassist/recording engineer from Chicago, Art Kulak, had his well designed sound room featured in Audio Magazine a few times. He also had Klipachorns and a belle center. He bought 3 Danley Synergy Horns to replace them in the same room, and sold me his center, since he no longer needed one fro 2.4 only. I was doing 7.3 with TD-1's at the time, around 12 years ago.
There's a big difference between imaging with two channel music content versus directionality with video content. My line arrays image perfectly with stereo music, and I only listen to music in stereo. But no matter how well any speakers image when watching TV without a center the presence of L/R content you hear that's not there when you have a center is very different and I don't care for it at all.
It's a matter of personal taste for sure. No issue there. I agree, since I don't watch Music VIDEOS or movies without all 13 of my channels, inclusing CENTER, which is identical to the LR.For those who ONLY listen to 2 channel mains, no center is required, not even yours, as you claim. AV is meant for at least 3 channels so you can clearly hear the voice in the mix. It even has a separate control element in most AVR's and Pre Pros.
This is why we MUST make clear the different listening MODES between plain old stereo vs. multichannel for movies and music Videos in conversation here, yes?
In addition, I believe I have tasted more dishes that most people to state my own preferences...............we all have different hearing too.
Edits: 03/07/25
I don't watch TV at all without my audio system. Not even the weather.
Same here, for Audio people, it's silly to put up with built in speakers.
My LG OLED 4k is used STRICTLY as a Video Monitor and all program is from my Pre Pro input with internet content from Amazon Fire Stick 4K at HDMI input.
Or Amazon Prime music from my iPhone via blue tooth input on the Pre Pro, which as ESS Sabre DAC chips.
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