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In Reply to: RE: REVIEW: Tekton Design Lore Speakers posted by jaydacus on July 27, 2017 at 19:18:59
Yeah, 30WPC would get those Lores goin' for sure.
Thanks for the tips.
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~$85 for Eminence's B102 shipped from Sweetwater
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LegendB102
you could run it without any filter, or with lowpass or perhaps a notch filter25 watts might move it pretty well - use more if you have it - speakers in this range will not work with a single 2A3
B102 spl French site
Eminence's published curve
The old version - less smooth, lower qts, went higher, had more mids and treble. A Druid sized pipe is about 1.3 cubic foot internal volume - so cutoff about 1.4 * higher than a cabinet twice the size.
indoors relative comparison - old B102 vs new spec B102
old spec B102 in fake Druid outdoors - that B102 now resides in
an old Karlson K12 type cabinet
typical sized cabinet - a forwards facing tweeter would be easy
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Right now I'm stuck with an 80WPC NAD integrated. The gain is so high that 9 o'clock on the volume knob is maxing the room and my ears out so there's little room for fine adjustment. I've tried in line attentuators but they seem to suck the life out of the music. I was thinking about an 8 WPC tube power amp with an additional volume control to fix this gain problem and also have an appropriate amount of watts.
Do you think 8WPC would be enough power for a 19x11.5x9 room? Max peak levels around 90db.
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does your NAD have pre=amp out amplifier in jacks with a jumper? if so - is there where you installed the attenuators ?
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It does but I installed the attentuators separately in the DAC and vinyl chain. CD and TT are my only sources aside from a Sirius/XM tuner which ain't worth the trouble.
Maybe I should try that but it seems like it would do the same thing. I have a pair of -6db and -12db barrels.
"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
am not sure how you're hooked up but it might (??) sound better when the attenuator is between the preamplifier -out and power amplifier-input - rather than attenuator between the DAC and the preamp's high level input jacks - unless your DAC can overdrive the preamp-in
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I may try this tomorrow. Will let you know.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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might be - I have Heresy I with paper-oil caps running from an 8 WPC EL34 single ended amp - sound very sweet with Fritz Wunderlich, Jimmy Martin - I've not played large scale pieces on them.
(didn't realize you had a set of Lore until read the first post)
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Wow, somebody who knows who Wunderlich is!
Got 4 or 5 LPs and some CD operas with him. One of the most gorgeous lyric tenors of any era.
Too bad he got drunk that time.
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yeah - bad fall - its a lot of fun to watch him too - one video with Kurt BI like a lot of the singers of the past - for tenors- Rosvaenge, Tauber, Wittrisch, Schock, Fillipeschi, Dermota, Peerce, Richard Lewis, Pears, Taccani, Pertile, Gigli, Nelepp,Kozlovsky and of course, Del Monaco
Patzak and Traxel were very good. Heinz Rehfuss singing Bach and Mahler - very good
in case you somehow aren't familiar with Armenian baritone Pavel Lisitsian Here's A GOODLY SAMPLE OF HIS SINGING
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Now that we've hijacked this thread.....LOL!
You're much more of a connoiseur of older singers than I am! I'm more with the singers I grew up listening to. Thanks for the Lisitsian. I had only read the name, never heard him. God knows the Prologue is hard enough in Italian. Impressive. My fav version is Cornell MacNeil from about 1959.
Given tenors, I usually go with the Italians but that's just me. Surprised you didn't include Corelli, my fav. Yeah, he could be a train wreck musically but wow!
Cheers!
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lol - am too old and tired to type -Corelli was something else and really great - with videos available, he seemed very good on stage despite stage fright - for what little its worth, I like Mario Del Monaco's tone better (judging only from recordings). Gobbi was great - Tibbet - - Bob Merrill too - too - almost forgotten about Cornell McNeil as haven't listened for years. Protti is someone I've come to like very much - (best somersaults !)With Youtube, we can hear Ruffo, Granforte, and a bunch of once famous singers at a click
here's one older recording that should be fun
btw - those Lore sure give a lot of driver value for a low price
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Thanks for the link! Yeah, and Leonard Warren.
A close friend who had a nice career at the Met and elsewhere tells me the story that MacNeil used to torment Corelli, who was, of course, easily tormented. In the dressing room next to Franco, Mac would voalise to high C(!) and Corelli would get all bent and refuse to go on. At least until they placated him.
Yeah, the Lore is built like a tank with a very nice finish. Can't believe the 1K price and you don't have to search for a ton of watts to drive the things. So far, so good.
"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
Great story !!!! (-hope you are cataloging them for posterity) how 'bout Del Monaco ?? - did he come to the Met? - wonder how touchy he may have been ?? I've never been to a full live opera - not listened much for a long time eitherhere's someone way cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogWdRFrJmWM
Your Lore must have over $400 just in drivers - then add cabinet, labor - amazing pricing -
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Edits: 07/31/17
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