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In Reply to: RE: Estate Sale Find! posted by Inmate51 on May 30, 2025 at 12:05:06
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"But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do you premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost." - Mark 3:11Jazz is Jizz. Trying to stop it is futile, and possibly too - downright destructive.
But it's interesting to hear the theorists *sputter* on about it, right ?
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As the bumper sticker put it of Werner H.
Heisenberg may or may not have slept here .
all the best,
mrh
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jazz is not speaking in tongues .
while it is often recorded , it is an interactive musical form that is often , but not always, defined by structure , so not easily understood , by a recorded moment, unlike thoughts conveyed in literature .
It's possible to "jazz up" any kind of music. Jazz might be more of an attitude than a style, and this "improvisational attitude" might be derived from the expressionistic attitudes displayed in places like Negro prayer meetings predating the display of "Jazz" in popular music...Hence, the scripture quotation.
Some would insist on linking the Jazz spirit to the rising popularity of syncopation in music during the late 19th/early 20th, but I do not. Because, syncopation galore can be found in the music of J.S. Bach. Nobody thought about "jazzing it up" back in Bach's day, as far as we know (at least not publicly).
After, during the "Classical" music era, more weight was given to improvisation but, for the most part, music was expected to be performed according to composer notation. A new type of musical freedom came into fashion after the "Romantic" era of classicism, during the "Jazz" era.
The pot had been bubbling for a while before "Jazz" music came into vogue, no doubt.
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I wish I could remember the classical composer who said he would not dream of writing the solo part for ( the great artist I can't remember) the composer might have been Beethoven, or some one as prominent ,because I came across the quotation back in the sixties as a musically poorly informed teenager.. I remember it because I wanted to give my teacher grief for having to play what was written. It appears I wasn't the easiest student.
I understand the point is pretty worthless without facts, but ti seems to imply that some of the classical parts were "head arraignments" such as used by the count Basie band in the early days, where no written arrangements were used , the knew the tune and played it the way it sounded as it should at the time, solo spots included.if what I suppose is correct, in an age where or could read of write the local language , it is pretty easy to imagine how improvisation in classical music was discarded as time passed . If to ever was there, I not a historian. just used to be a kid with a smart mouth.
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. . . the distinguishing features of Jazz are the swing rhythm and the "blues" scale. He notes that MANY other musical traditions employ syncopation and improvisation.
I tend to imagine that those rhythms and scales, along with certain signature sounds, are little more than convenient vehicles instinctively chosen for the purpose of releasing cathartic energy.To "Jazz" is to release pressure in a kind of abandonment, the opposite of oppressive orderliness.
If, in the course of all this, we stumble upon something musically entertaining and marketable ? Then "Hi-de-ho!" - all the better !
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