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Why do people think iPhone/iPad/iBook sound better than other brand?

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Leo loves music

Do these Apple devices have anything to do with audiophile sound quality? I know LG V40, V60 does.

Edits: 03/21/25 03/21/25

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Why does perfection matter? - Ozzie 13:33:30 03/22/25 (1)
In most cases people use these to splice a subwoofer to mains. Even if an el cheapo meter is off by a Db or dos you are splicing a curve to a curve. Any differences won't matter as both curves will be proportionally off. I recall guys calibrating the Rat Shack one at every Hz. What a waste of time.
- Agree. A total waste of time and money - AbeCollins 19:09:17 03/22/25 (0)
  But me thinks you posted in the wrong thread. In this one Leo tries to incite an iPhone/iPad/iBook controversy. I'm not sure why he mentions iBook cuz that's been out of production for 20 years.
  As for SPL meters most of us just need repeatable relative readings in which case absolute accuracy is not a concern. But audiophiles will be audiophiles.
  
  Edits: 03/22/25 03/22/25
My new iPad with stereo outputs sounds fantastic. Image is 10 feet away sometimes. Pretty cool. Nt - Geoffkait 04:03:06 03/22/25 (0)
Nt
RE: Why do people think iPhone/iPad/iBook sound better than other brand? - Bill the K 00:23:08 03/22/25 (1)
Why do people think Linn TT sounds better than all others? Because c is replaced by K?

Bill
- This is the first time I've heard anyone compare iPhone to LP12 (nt) - Leo loves music 03:59:29 03/22/25 (0)
Which people are you talking about ? - AbeCollins 20:41:41 03/21/25 (5)
I do know that it is easier to interface those tiny outboard Dragonfly DACs and the like on iPhone which can potentially sound better as you cannot easily bypass Android's internal sample rate conversion. On dedicated streamers / players based on Android the manufacturers do in fact modify the OS to disable Android's internal SRC.
Do iPhones and iPads actually sound better? Who says they do? I wouldn't know as I don't use phones or tables for serious audio playback.
What's an iBook ?

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- Her - Leo loves music 04:16:11 03/22/25 (4)
  There is an app called USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) which can easily fix the issue. You have to pay a small fee though.
  - Ok - E-Stat 12:48:59 03/22/25 (0)
    nobody from here.
  - RE: Her - AbeCollins 10:53:02 03/22/25 (2)
    UAPP might be a viable added-cost hack for the Android phone SRC limitation getting in the way but it seems to have a few problems. Nice that iPhone out of the box requires no such hack..... so Yes, I suppose iPhone can potentially sound better W/O aftermarket hacks.
    UAPP:
    - The app crashes and can't play some DSD files
    - After last update it keeps freezing.
    - music keeps playing but the UI freezes
    - search function unbearably slow
    - very slow reading folders even local.
    - shuffle function is horrible. Not random
    - shuffle plays same song 5 times and never plays some songs even once
    - wish the queue system worked instead of needing to be reset when the program is restarted.
    - sucks my battery dry so fast.
    - devours battery as if it's mining crypto in the background.
    - the developer is NOT very kind. Shooting him an email and he's snarky, rude and unwilling to help for simple fixes or tweaks.
    
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    - UAPP only costs a few bucks. - Leo loves music 11:57:08 03/22/25 (1)
      I installed it on multiple phones. I have no issue with the app even DSD format.
      - Costs ZERO on iPhone - AbeCollins 20:40:09 03/22/25 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: UAPP only costs a few bucks. posted by Leo loves music on March 22, 2025 at 11:57:08
        
        ...and has none of the bugs.
RE: Why do people think iPhone/iPad/iBook sound better than other brand? - chocolate_lover 18:59:57 03/21/25 (2)
Confirmation bias is a BIG aspect of this hobby
- https://www.psaudio.com/blogs/pauls-posts/confirmation-bias? (Open in New Window)
- RE: Why do people think iPhone/iPad/iBook sound better than other brand? - beach cruiser 19:34:11 03/21/25 (1)
  conformation bias is only a superficial part of the deal. recognizing the subjectivity of human hearing as a reality that is always in play adds a further layer of understanding to this subject of great importance to all who enjoy this hobby.
  - Psychological effects can be eliminated by careful testing. Nt - Geoffkait 04:05:10 03/22/25 (0)
    Nt
RE: Why do people think iPhone/iPad/iBook sound better than other brand? - JoeKool 18:12:13 03/21/25 (0)
Part of their ethos, believing a brand is superior because of their embrace of it.
People believe things because they're conditioned to believe them. Nt - Geoffkait 16:00:47 03/21/25 (3)
Nt
- Like feeding parasites? (nt) - Leo loves music 16:16:17 03/21/25 (2)
  - Why only two? Nt - Geoffkait 14:52:33 03/22/25 (0)
    Nt
  - RE: Like feeding parasites? (nt) - beach cruiser 19:38:25 03/21/25 (0)
    please leave the bugs on my eyelashes out of any audio discussions. apparently they have been inseparable travelers with the human race since long before hi fi was invented.

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