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In Reply to: RE: An Eye-opening Experience. posted by Utley1 on January 02, 2025 at 15:24:47
You find lots of audiophiles who have no interest in listening to music sans electronics.
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Even 'live' is a funny game.. Carnegie hall has speakers along the sides of the hall. So you have to sit dead center or in one of the upper tiers.
thanks for sparing me the experience. ;)
I need Carnegie Hall the Met and Lincoln Center to teach me what music is from time to time. That is all that I meant..
Of some interest; as a former architect I play with musical halls as sound spaces. Many of the newer halls that were built after 2000, use scientific sound engineering models---they are infinitely better sounding, than the comfy cushiony rugged halls of the past, whether in Europe or the US It is live music as in 'live'experience. They are great sound instruments and employ a variety of seating arrangements. Do not write off live music even if the conducting is mediocre compared to what you hear on record.(which is the best of the best for the last 80 years)
Do not write off live music even if the conducting is mediocre...
I thought the topic was the limitations of PA sound reinforced performers.
Carnegie hall has speakers along the sides of the hall. So you have to sit dead center or in one of the upper tiers.
My local symphony is not of CSO caliber (for which I have many experiences), but it is live music ! The flying Js are used only for concert introductions and for non-symphonic shows which use the same venue.
I've never been there. But all the time you spent at HP's, I was on the island, listening at crappy sounding jazz clubs. I am now 65, close to you, and we have had dozens of live gigs over the last 30 some odd years. Forget live unamplified, it all is, even if a your crib.
I just cannot handle hard sounding results at ear bleeding levels. I want to hear and articulate the music.
Takes all the fun away for me.
So when you were listening at the big fellas crib in New Jersey, did you tell him to turn it down? He was a bit of a Db freak. Knock yourself out with choral music, and audiophile approved dreck.
your speculations have no basis in fact.
If you're interested in reality, I'm happy to answer questions. :)
HP was an admitted bass freak. I met him once at a show in the city. My girlfriend at the time said she thought he liked me. Did he like you too? 😉
he enjoyed content with first octave bass like Dafos and Yim Hok Man. The IRS, Genesis, Nola Grand Reference and Scaena 1.4s all did 16 hz. Just not at rock concert levels and naturally, his phenomenal systems were utterly devoid of harshness.He liked lots of folks. My wife and I stayed with him shortly while passing through the NYC area on our honeymoon.
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True story, Stephen and I snuck into the Monster private party at CES because Santana was the big headliner. It was so loud, neither of us could stand it.After 10 minutes or so of abuse, we headed out and noticed that the sound in the hallway was much better, so we listened for a little while.
-Rod
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and in another aspect, describes the image size perspective I get from some speakers like the KEF Blade.Back in the lobby.
edit: Having said that, I enjoyed quite the evening in '74 at the Omni with Golden Earring backing up Santana. Weed abounded.
Fantastic night.
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