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In Reply to: RE: Eversolo DMP A8 Streamer + Gustard X26-lll DAC posted by Reindane on March 08, 2025 at 22:47:43
I was super interested in the Eversolo A10 and was pretty set on buying it. But I decided to expand my search to consider other choices. I found and bought an Auralic Vega S1 streamer/dac/pre-amp.
Admittedly I have not heard the Eversolo, but the Vega S1 sounds REALLY good. I'm very happy with it.
Interestingly, it too uses an ESS Sigma Delta Chip but "only" to decode the digital signal. It has an FPGA circuit to handle all filtering and post processing.
Here's how Auralic describes it's "Fusion Dac":This innovative approach involves modifying a high-performance, manufacturer DAC chip by bypassing most of its functions, such as PLL, digital filter, and oversampling circuits. Instead, AURALiC deploys its proprietary clock reconstruction, digital filter, and oversampling technologies, ensuring that only the precise switching network inside the DAC chip is utilized for the final digital-to-analog conversion stage.
The Vega S1 has Anaglog R2R volume controls, Anaglog and Digital inputs, Dual 60fs Femto Clocks and a full-featured phone/tablet LightnighDS control App.
When evaluating streaming DACs I'd recommend adding the Vega S1 to your list.
Follow Ups:
It is possible that there are other streamer/DACS out there that could be as good or maybe better than the Eversolo A8 but the $2000 A8 was perfect for me at the time of purchase and the price was right.
In an earlier Audio Asylum thread some months ago I recommended the A8 to fellow AA Inmates so my first post in this thread was primarely aimed at other A8 owners that could have interest in my findings regarding replacing the internal AKM DAC with an external DAC.
When I got my A8 I planned on comparing the internal DAC to my fully upgraded Schiit Bifrost multibit that I enjoyed for years. After setting the A8 up last August I still haven't gotten around to it. I'm just enjoying the music and great UI. I moved the Bifrost to my bedroom system.
Gsquared
I too have enjoyed the A8 very much, but then I got this offer of 20% discount on a brand new Gustard X26-lll, which I could not resist.My current audio chain is now like this: Eversolo A8 streamer > Gustard X26-lll > Lyngdorf TDAI 2200 digital amplifier with room correction > ATC SCM19 V2 speakers.
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" My current audio chain is now like this: Eversolo A8 streamer > Gustard X26-lll > Lyngdorf TDAI 2200 digital amplifier with room correction > ATC SCM19 V2 speakers."
3 boxes of electronics, with their own cases, power supplies, cables, etc. Personally, if starting from scratch, I'd have gone for a good all-in-one and spent the saving (compared with 3 boxes) on bigger / better speakers.
The ATC 19s are from their Hi-Fi rage and these are far more suitable in the home than their Professional range. I understand their model 40 is a very capable speaker.
My strategy with hi-fi is to spend as much as possible on what makes the sound we hear (the speakers) and choose carefully to ensure the electronics don't let the speakers down. My own speaker to electronics list price ratio is 7:1 and I believe this offers best value and great sound, though I accept that my next upgrade should be in electronics.
You have already earlier stated your preference for all-in-one boxes but that is beside the point in this thread. Would you care to stick to the topic?
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This is a Forum. It meanders. It can not be controlled by the OP or anyone (other than a moderator) . You can start it on the Eversolo A8 but you can't keep it there just by saying so.
So, enjoy the ride and perhaps everyone will learn something by the conversation. By the way, that's how actual conversations work, as well. They weave in and out of topics and many times end up somewhere completely different.
Absolutely right!
In fact this thread is about adding an external DAC to a device that already has a DAC, so perhaps I was less off topic than our friend suggests! I was proposing that this route adds unnecessarily to the cost of a system where perhaps resources could be better allocated by avoiding duplication, multiple boxes, cables and power supplies.
If budget is no problem, then multi-box systems may be an attractive proposition, particularly to those who like the jewellery aspect of piles of impressive boxes! Vive la difference!
the initial post again:"It took the Gustard 75 hours to really open up but then it presented a soundstage that was wider, deeper and taller than the Eversolo AKM DAC with pin point placing and space between instruments. The sound was more textured and full, and to my surprise the sound was also sweeter from the Gustard ESS DAC than from the Eversolo AKM DAC."
I was proposing that this route adds unnecessarily to the cost of a system...
Some of us don't find that notably improved fidelity constitutes "unnecessary cost" within our budgets. The real villain IMHO is the all-in-one concept where you're *locked* into one company's vision in time without later duplicating functions (like this case or yours) or complete replacement. That concept, however, does provide value with the $230 48V Fosi MC351 Integrated DAC/amp in the garage system.
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I love those ATCs.
Gsquared
Edits: 03/10/25
It will be interesting to see what you end up keeping.
If you read the DMP-A8 reviews they tend to say that the A8 'fixes' the shortcomings found in the A6. This particular review below gives high praise to the A8 over the A6 and lot of what he says about the A8 sound can be found in his review of the Gustard X26 III. He's very thorough in his reviews, isn't he?!
Review of Gustard X26 III
Review of EverSolo DMP-A8
I have a more 'robust' sounding DAC but it doesn't match the detail retrieval and soundstage size of the DMP-A8. Plus the DMP-A8 has a legit preamp section with relay stepped attenuator. I take full advantage of it for driving my power amp.
Keep us posted! Thanks.
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