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In Reply to: RE: Eversolo DMP A8 Streamer + Gustard X26-lll DAC posted by Reindane on March 09, 2025 at 06:29:18
Interesting. I think that DAC development has long-since reached the point that new versions offer such minute improvement from the previous generation as to not be worth spending good money on.i2s out is surely only needed in the A8 if you feel its DAC isn't good enough and you need this output to deliver a digital signal to an alternative DAC that won't accept a more conventional connection - AES/EBU (the best and missing from both and A10), coax, or optical (the worst). If the A10 includes an exceptional DAC, none of its digital outputs should ever be needed.
I say this having never heard the A8 or A10, but the specs are such that I'd never consider the A8, but would seriously consider the A10 - as a possible alternative to the NAD M66 that I'm more likely to go for. The A8 has no Trigger so how do you turn on the DAC and amp? Another reason for not wanting the A8, particularly as I need the preamp to activate my amps and my hybrid speakers!
If adding to one's hi-fi investment, it'll most likely be best put any extra into better speakers as these ALWAYS offer a significant improvement in the sound that reaches our ears if chosen carefully. As it happens, at present I feel my electronics may be the weakest link in my own system, as my speaker to electronics list-price ratio is 8:1
PS - Looking at the Gustard spec, I see that it uses the identical ES9039PRO chip set as the A10. But the cost of the Gustard includes the case, the power supply, the sockets, the power cable and an interconnect - all of which you wouldn't need to pay for if that identical ESS DAC chip was installed in the streamer preamp - as it is in the A10. Just a thought!
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"The A8 has no Trigger so how do you turn on the DAC and amp? Another reason for not wanting the A8, particularly as I need the preamp to activate my amps and my hybrid speakers!"The trigger output from my DMP-A8 turns my power Amp On/Off. Can be done from the A8 front panel or the On/Off button on the A8 Remote Control.
"but the specs are such that I'd never consider the A8, but would seriously consider the A10"
Which specs in particular? I haven't read up on the A10 but that one is twice the price of the A8.
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had to buy a longer cord when we remodeled the family room with the cabling going through the wall chase.
Eversolo needs to work on their Chinese ("trriger") spelling. ;)
Sorry, Abe. I looked at both the A8 and A10 but missed the trigger on the A8. As it happens, I'm somewhat annoyed I bought the Alma-Sphere Class D monos before checking that they don't have triggers. I still use triggers for the amps in my hybrid speakers.
Do you use the Eversolo control app and if so, how comprehensive and intuitive is it? Also is it available for Windows and iPad, or just Android?
Thanks
I've used the Eversolo control App on my iPad and iPhone. It is available for Android but I'm not sure about Windows as it is a mobile App and I think Microsoft gave up on mobile when their Windows phones were a flop.The control App allows you to pretty much do what you can do from the Eversolo front panel touchscreen but on your phone/tablet. This is nice but in most cases you're not messing with the touch screen except during setup. You would typically use the App that is Applicable (ha!) to your streaming service. Since the Eversolo is Roon Ready, I use the Roon Remote App on my iPad.
They additionally provide a handheld remote for basic functions like On, Off, skip, pause, stop, start, volume up/down/mute, and some functions to choose different display settings on the Eversolo screen. These might include album art, VU meter styles, audio bar chart styles, etc.
Unfortunately many audiophile brands don't include a 12v trigger. It's not a deal breaker for me but a convenience feature that I use when available.
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