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Any thoughts? As a Sonus faber owner, that's going to take a little time to digest.I don't personally see the synergy. I thought bose was targeting the car stereo market, and wireless sound and home theatre systems on home networks.
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not withstanding the comments above,
This is a really bizarre occurrence -
Bose has been well described as a marketing company masquerading as an audio manufacturing outfit.
Both McIntosh and SF have had high and low points in their runs as previously independent companies, and even a reasonably well received run as a combined unit - sort of....
But when the Hedge fund boyz get bored, and sell to the S&M Boyz (sales & marketing) I do not anticipate any product improvements -
(Blue Meters on speakers anyone?)
I have some old McIntosh equipment that is in need of some updates, which are scheduled...
I have always wanted a pair of SF speakers - but never had the cash and opportunity coincide...
I doubt I would buy any of the products in the future,
even with out the restrictions associated with cost.
Happy Listening
NT
"Predictions are difficult."
"Especially about the future!"
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Sonus Faber's (I prefer to us US Standard Capitalization) bread-and-butter and high-end models are made in the EC. But their low-end stuff is made in China. I do not know what percentage of SF sales the US accounts for. Let alone, what the US split is between EC and PRC.
Whoever Greenlighted that acquisition was flailing around in the wrong job, if he or she did not take into account (and bake into the loaf of the transaction) the following Risks, which are all almost entirely Political:
1) China Invades Taiwan.
Now that SF has US Owners, a Taiwan Invasion would certainly interrupt SF's supply chain, and perhaps even their sales of EC-made loudspeakers into China--depending on how hard the US pushes back. That said, there are competent OEM loudspeaker builders in Indonesia (Sinar Baja) and perhaps also in Vietnam.
2) Trump manages to cancel the agreements that replaced NAFTA.
While none of us were paying attention, Furniture Manufacturing became a $1 Billion a year Growth Industry. In Mexico. Supposedly, much of Ikea's catalog items sold in the US are now manufactured in Mexico.
But if building loudspeaker boxes in Mexico and assembling the crossovers in Canada, and assembling completed speakers in Tennessee or Iowa is no longer a valid business strategy because you have to pay punitive Tariffs on Mexican goods (Did not DJT say 35%???) and Canadian goods, what are your options? Especially if you build in the USA, but your USA-built products are now subject to Retaliatory Tariffs in other countries!!!
3) The US Consumer Economy (and, US Society) Collapses to an extent not seen in 90+ years.
No sane person will bet his life, his goods, and his sacred honor that there is 100% no chance ever, that local police forces will be ordered to use force to keep US Army and National Guard units from rounding up human beings and shipping them off to Concentration Camps.
As I was growing up, I knew four survivors of Nazi Concentration Camps. Two were teachers of mine.
If that worst-case scenario eventuates, whether SF's $750,000 TOTL setup can be bought at the Fire Sale Price of $200,000 might be the least of SF's problems.
Obi-Wan is feeling a Great Disturbance in the Force.
Or, everything will be just plain ducky!!!
john
John, sometimes I feel bad that I have to do this to you, but you have a history or writing the longest posts in the world and getting most of your facts wrong. And yet again you did it:
"Sonus Faber's (I prefer to us US Standard Capitalization) bread-and-butter and high-end models are made in the EC. But their low-end stuff is made in China. I do not know what percentage of SF sales the US accounts for. Let alone, what the US split is between EC and PRC."
Years ago Sonus Faber had some models made in China such as the Chameleon and original Sonetto series. But it's been several years since they brought everything back to Italy and now their entry-level range, Lumina, is built in Italy as well.
This is how many times I've had to correct an error in what you've written? Do you EVER check your facts before writing the posts you do?
Doug Schneider
SoundStage!
YLN SUK!
john
(That is "Get a Life," but in Klingon.)
It seems the Venere was discontinued a number of years ago. My mistake.
My understanding is that the Sonus faber Venere 3.0 Loudspeakers are made in China.
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