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In Reply to: RE: Le Journey Continues posted by Tangram on January 23, 2024 at 11:25:50
And as always | often your welcome, Tangram.
And while I know I'm being overly anal about the color of the shells housing and all, I'd just rather see a Matt black version as opposed to satin black which looks cheesy to me.
Like you..., I've come to simply adore the Accuphase aluminum shell, as it's very well constructed | the bronze ( darkish gold )color itself is beautiful to behold. Next up is as you've yours plating with a Xangsane Rhodium AC | Xangsane Cooper IEC ( while the latter has remained in place since flipping out the stock plug ) at some point I'll get around to trying rotating through the SonarQuest | Viborg VF503 | IeGO 8055 | Monosaudio F103 Copper IECs as well as maybe try out both the Viborg | SonarQuest rhodium as well as silver plated copper IECs, as it stands at this very second said Rhodium or Silver Plated AC plugs both are serving me well.
But..., I'm still curious enough to purchase a Monosaudio F109G gold plated copper this weekend, as the combinations which might prove very effective would otherwise never be known.
As you've stated " happier camper all around ", with the exception of yet one more power cord as pictured above, I do believe once again I don't have any desire to keep looking to change things cable wise, that is.
Follow Ups:
And why not too !
Both cords have very similar construction | features to boot..., besides the Audiocrast 900 having least stands as it's the one in the bottom photo.
Tangram, what would you make of said difference sonically speaking?.
Interesting designs, could well be the next step, I should think indistinguishable from each other though.
My only concern is their hybrid design of using separate runs of silver plated copper wires within the pure copper outer runs. The worst power cord of which I bought off eBay awhile back offers said hybrid design, yet it was taken out of my system in less then one track:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175486605690?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=acgppPTnT6i&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=12wYTLIlRo-&var=474804671152&widget_ver=artemis&media=EMAIL
I'll be following your move on this one. And only pursue once you've given the green light.
So today I was in the mood for trying as I now have a good handle on my Accuphase rhodium plug / copper iec into my blue Xangsane.
I found that I had a silver plated copper Viborg iec and swapped out the copper ,
It started out fine listening to Dvorak with more immediacy/ attack, improved timbre and increased focus particularly depicting what's going on in the very back, more clarity on kettle drums
Then I changed to cannonball and his quartet, more listening to sax in particular started getting a little fatiguing as I was beginning to experience a not so good colouration here, kind of verging on shouty.
Maybe if left in overnight or so it may settle in more to my liking ?
Now for the cyco all gold plated copper, here I just found it to be lacking in nuances, it was harder to hear distant cymbal works, rolled off, quite romantic sounding but the attack ans dynamics were just not involving enough, a bit cotton wool is if you like.
So tomorrow, I have changed out the cyco iec to the silver and retaining the gold plug
The other Accuphase cord is back to rhodium plug to copper iec which is my reference.
We shall see then to be continued.
Looking closer at your photo, might I suggest trying the combination of the copper ac male with the silver plated copper iec female, as the combination I'm currently using is said Viborg VM503S silver plated copper male with a Monosaudio F101 copper.
Once again, it seems different brands have their own house sound, where I've found brands like Furutech | Cardas | Neotech offer a more precise type of signature, but one I can't tolerate for very long as I've to assume it's because each use heavier plating techniques than others, whereas the Monosaudio | Xangsane designs are more forgiving in nature, whereas Viborg strikes me as somewhere in between say the sound one gets from brands like Vanguard or SonarQuest, yet one of the most sort after in-plated copper plugs are the CopperColour makes, which many swear by.
I've never thought to use a combination of Silver or Rhodium Plated Copper, together, as I'd imagine the main focus would be geared towards the top end, while lacking mid-range beauty and added sense of warmth | refinement. So far I'm thinking either a Vanguard Rhodium or Silver Plated Copper AC Male used with their stablemate FI-60G Gold Plated Copper IEC Female according to Chris's recommendation sounds valid.
It seems all you've to do if flip out the blades as rhodium followed by silver plated copper ac | copper iec, the latter two should clearly give you a taste of what I'm hearing, different systems an all, the generalization of sound should remain intact.
Photo alert, just a dining room test I'm looking to buy, once again I use my photo gallery as a visual reminder of things which interest me.
So today I was in the mood for trying as I now have a good handle on my Accuphase rhodium plug / copper iec into my blue Xangsane.
I found that I had a silver plated copper Viborg iec and swapped out the copper ,
It started out fine listening to Dvorak with more immediacy/ attack, improved timbre and increased focus particularly depicting what's going on in the very back, more clarity on kettle drums
Then I changed to cannonball and his quartet, more listening to sax in particular started getting a little fatiguing as I was beginning to experience a not so good colouration here, kind of verging on shouty.
Maybe if left in overnight or so it may settle in more to my liking ?
Now for the cyco all gold plated copper, here I just found it to be lacking in nuances, it was harder to hear distant cymbal works, rolled off, quite romantic sounding but the attack ans dynamics were just not involving enough, a bit cotton wool is if you like.
So tomorrow, I have changed out the cyco iec to the silver and retaining the gold plug
The other Accuphase cord is back to rhodium plug to copper iec which is my reference.
We shall see then to be continued.
Tangram,This is all becoming very very interesting to say the least, but I'd like to post below several letters I received earlier from Chris ( Kam Audio ) as it relates to plating types and all which I've managed to get a feel for where's he's coming from, and intend to act accordingly as it poses some good line of thinking, here goes.
(1st letter ):
Hi Oscar,
Honesty,
Did you seen expensive Hi End cable use different plating AC and IEC?
Is there something too much from the AC plug, so it needs IEC plug to be repaired and modified?In my system, AC and IEC are same plating,
Vanguard Copper Silver and Copper Gold
Furutech Copper Rhodium
Wattgate brass silver and brass non plating(2nd):
Hi Oscar,
Furutech DPS-4.1 with Furutech FI-50 NCF
Acoustic Revive TC1800 with Furutech FI-11R
Harmonic Technology AC10 with Vanguard FI-60
Harmonic Technology OS with Vanguard Gold
DIY solid silver with Vanguard Silverand some old cables unused...,
Furutech 316Ag II with Furutech FI-15G
Music foundation MAS 50A with Vanguard Silver
Audio note ISIS with wattgate silver
Burmester with wattgate brass non plated
Tara Labs The one with hubbell brass non platedFurutech AC and IEC sound very good, expect gold plated.
You can try Furutech or Vanguard replace the Viborg.And this 3rd one just came in after having added the post moments ago:
Hi my friend,
I like silver in my system, as you seen my amps and speaker is warm and sweet.....😅
Playback design DAC is balance and smooth...
I choose Native DSD files, classical and pop.
So, what flavor do you need? please let me know.Harmonic tech is new brand, OEM from Taiwan Neotech, but sound much better than Neotech brand cables....
Quite good, cheaper in USA. Ask your local dealer.
Ali-express and ebay, location in China seller, 100% Fake.
Not my first choice, because price expensive now.Furutech, Japanese.
Ali-express and ebay, location in China seller, 100% Fake.
If you interested Furutech, ask your local dealer.
https://www.furutech.com/distributors/america/
Furutech Normal products made in Taiwan, Flagship products made in Japan.
DPS-4.1 is flagship bulk cable, made by Mtsubishi in Japan.
This cable is the best I have, and I can said this cable is the best of value, and best selling cable.
When you tried, must buy more.Oyaide, not my cup of tea.
Power cable length, I suggest at least 1.5m
Vanguard AC,
My customers recommend Copper Gold, I agree sound better than Furutech Copper Gold too.
If you like non plated copper sound, Vanguard gold will be good for you too.
If you want more detail, 3D, sharp, sweet, Copper silver.
Rhodium, biggest sound stage.
https://kamaudio.com/Vanguard-8AWG-Copper-Silver-Spade
Wire terminals can get large improve. Recommend.Best regards,
Chris
His system is shown above ( seemingly of good quality based components | speakers, as well as his own plugs ) | yet I'm willing to await your findings, as for now my plan is to once again buy a set of plugs, either continuing with a set of his Vanguard FI-60 series of Silver Plated Copper or Rhodium Plated Copper with Carbon Fiber shells AC | IEC?, and be done with this once and for all..., but I did save your Cyko as well as several different makes of the TODN cords into my wishlist, yet I'm going to hold off on the former, until you've given your view on it versus the standard Accuphase version, as there seem to be some differences between the wiring used in both?, but I'm just guessing out loud.Let the journey continue..., Thanks for offering the follow up.
Edits: 01/25/24
They do look very much like Xangsane , especially the rhodium xlr he does, still good prices.
The cyco are only gold plated only for u.s plugs. More tomorrow on this as previously mentioned.
Still early days and it does take time, IMHO silver is the way to go, but to be all throughout , time will tell , not sure yet how silver plated copper compares to solid silver I have. I will no doubt be trying this out in months to come.
In the meantime I do like the Rhodium plug with copper iec, however this could change.
I will also try the copper plug and sllver iec soon too.
One thing for sure is the Accuphase wire itself is special and so user friendly in management.
Very very true, they certainly do.
As I've mentioned I've only managed to find three makers of Pure Silver Connectors, where the most cost effective ones are the CooperColour at around $154 the set, whereas the Viborg ones come in around $466 the set, and Monosaudio is willing to do a special to order scenarios, they come in at $500 per pair, once again I just can't justify this type of bread spent on a $42 power cord, it'd seem more logical to just outright buy another $600 cord, of which the Accuphase has replaced 3 of which I've owned ( and gladly sold off within the last 3 years I should add ) yet once again, I'm placing the ball at your end of the court, and will follow your lead on this one, as I'm getting dizzy just thinking about the possibilities, yet in truth know there's only 1-4 combinations of which one should stand out above the other two..., whether it's a rhodium or silver plated as the main AC, with either a copper or gold IEC, there has to be one which offers a purely magical effect sound wise, and I'm like you determined to find it.
Party On Garth.
There is one other and that's wirewoo on Alixpress, these look very fine indeed.
Another thing that sways me to solid silver is that I recently replaced my long lengths of Xangsane pure silver interconnects with the Viborg xlr pure silver, I swear now that they are burnt in my system is doing things rather differently, the presentation is just different, spookily different,I put it down to these xlr.
Interestingly during burn in the musical flow/ dynamics would on some days become so bland and lifeless, more than any other burnin I care to remember. Even thought a tube was going down on my phono !
Thanks, Tangram.
I'll look into them, yet if I were to obtain some pure silver connectors, I'd ask that someone like yourself | Jon L. or A Bliss would be kind enough to solder them on for me?, I'd be more than willing to pay one's fee of course.
Like you once again, I simply have come to adore both of the Xangsane IC's, where I can say in all honesty that's one area I no longer ponder what's out there. If for no other logical reason than to throw things out of whack?, which it's my forte.
So from an overnight settle I with the gold plated plug and silver iec.
Simply wonderful, there's a good synergy here to say the least, it just takes everything in its stride, very much in control, more dimension/ layering, even spectacular on crescendo, the control, just another level that I have heard in this position, lowering of colourations on flute,trumpets, sax etc , just more at ease and silkier, Iam sure this will rival pure silver and could even eclipse. I have immediately order the Viborg silver plated iec and Viborg gold plated plug from a vendor on Epay. This is just staying in period and I will explore now with the Epay order when received. So exciting...-..
Very very highly recommended and pushes the wonderful Accuphase wire to new territory in this position I have it connected . Good old gold plating!,
So now the unplated copper and rhodium is out.
I'm beginning to think I'm way overthinking this chasing different brands of plugs option thingies, as I already have quite a few of them sitting here from brands like Xangsane | Monosaudio | IeGO | Viborg and find myself looking at ones from Vanguard | SonarQuest as far as getting sets of gold plated copper ac | iec plugs.
So allow me to slow down and catch myself | use what's already in place..., yet once again trying to figure out whether or not which type of plating should be used as the AC?, and as the IEC has began to cause me more than a few sleepless nights.
As I'm able to distinguish quite different sonics of each of these brands | it's time to figure out which offsets the others more dominant signature?, once again it seems the balancing act has to come into play, as using two Viborg's to my ears lean more towards the slightly harder hitting side of the spectrum | whereas using a Monosaudio on one end or the other, offers a quieter more laid-backness to the sound which strikes me as a more delicate balance, all in all I've to once again say this has proven to be an extremely wonderful journey.
Yet as Tangram pointed out the tandem of silver | gold plated copper plugs offer many seemingly have overlooked in favor of narrowing their choices to just using rhodium alongside copper plugs, there's a lot to be learned should we all be open-minded to change ( growth ) and allow our imagination to soar.
Never settle on what might otherwise seem casted into stone, there are more options to explore than we allow ourselves to believe. But to know where this journey takes us?, we must submit to temptation of thinking our system sound their best without exploring the smallest of details, where connectors matter more than the wires the hold together, Chinese junk or not?.
I see the SonarQuest are cryoed , are you able to hear this as an attribute to the other offerings.
Just coming of their site, I have to wander, and very good prices for the basic range which as far as I can see are the same blades throughout their range. Easy to go for the basic and place in the Accuphase aluminium housing. Possibly thicker plating than Viborg and they do the silver plating.
Food for thought for possible further gains, should I be bothered!
Let's say the seed has been planted from the Viborg offerings Iam going to receive.
The prices are so reasonable anyway especially when you think of how much these audiophile fuses cost and blow!
Maybe my next purchase for the gold plug/iec or in reverse once I evaluate which way round ( if any ).
You're correct as the SonarQuest offerings do use a heavier plating layer compared to Viborg, yet as I've been warned against any plugs with a nickel plating alongside the others, I just placed the claimed Platinum Plated Copper ones aside for now.And I to began to notice that whether it was a companies entry level or top level plugs with some form of exotic aluminum shell housing, the plating of the blades were the same, and like you I've decided to stick with the Accuphase beautifully built | looking shell, to just flip said blades out from the entry - mid level makes instead.
Weird thing is I saw how many messages we've exchanged during this post | with very little to be heard from others, yet as I've received personal emails from 13 people, whom obviously weren't requested here, " but said thanks for doing a good job of sharing said advice ), whom would then ask about the Accuphase PC | plating options, it seems others have been watching from a distance after all, as I do tend to watch on average how many of these cords have sold since two months ago, as well as the YODN cord as listed here ( shows 500+ as sold ):
Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $52.63 53ï¼... Off | TODN power cable hifi occ audio cable EU/US Vseries Shielded carbon fiber shell Connecter amplificateur, filtre
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Which means people are actually buying it..., a good sign in my book.
Once again, I had to catch myself as I tend to buy things more than twice, and am trying to sort through the sonic differences of each brand, as a means of placing two with similar house sound, which might becomes overly aggressive?, or on the other hand overly smooth to the point of putting me into a Power Nap ( bored to shit ) mode.
While I'm aware that IeGO along with the ETI Research Gold Plated Copper plugs are known for offering a faster | more responsive transient attack of notes | liver sound that say Furutech or Cardas plugs, I'm looking to use an IeGO 8065 Silver Plated Copper IEC that I've had laying here for over a year, but as much as I'd love to buy their stablemate 8075 Gold AC Male, that little person standing just to the left of me on my shoulder is speaking into my ear, saying what if it becomes overwhelming?, as opposed to using a brand with a slightly creamier signature which should ideally be an even greater match, synergistically speaking of course.
And once again, when I asked all three firms which make said plugs, which one should I go with if I'd only purchase one?, all of them stated start with the AC ( Head ) " as in like one ( marriage)relationships, where in the old days men ran their homes, and their wife's ( or woman ) only ran it in their absence, which sounds liberal, yet for the life of me I've never once heard a man ( or husband ) say to their children..., wait until your mother gets home, oh you're going to get it ".
All that to more are less say the AC " Male " according to what these guys, and many reviews I've followed on the subject of late, all feel it's the most dominant sound, whereas the IEC " Female " ( oops, there goes the overly aggressive | controlling male figure in me once again ) simply follows his lead, and sings in tune. " BUT " like you I've stated buying sets of each, should I at some point wish to change things up just a tad?, which then leads to another important factor of which I haven't done in awhile..., and that's to change out the actual IEC Inlets on several of my components to better suit the incoming IEC plug according to plating type(s), so I ordered two different flavors of the ones produced by Viborg ( one gold and the other rhodium as shown above ) as I figure gold would perform better with a silver plated plug | whereas rhodium would bring about just enough change to match a gold plated incoming plug, no?.
And while I can't once again solder worth a F_ck, I've always been active in changing out passive components ( like RCA Jacks and Connectors | Binding Post | Banana Plugs ) on amplification | speakers | cables which can be either screwed or bolted down with an O lug or screw sets.
Either way, once again this has opened both my minds and eyes ( actually ears ) to such a wonderful sound, I can only hope others take our words seriously?, not that I care in the least, but it'd be nice to know my ( our ) hearing hasn't quite failed us just yet.
As always I'll catch you on the flip side, have a great | safe week young fella.
Edits: 01/28/24
Yes the nickel plating, maybe the cryo makes up for this ?Anyway, further thoughts, as I have a spare short Accuphase wire , I will terminate with Xangsane rhodium and the gold plated cyko iec and see what that brings to the table in lieu of the gold and silver Accuphase I now regard as being my reference connecting to the blue Xangsane receptacle.
Mixing again yellow metal with white metal.
Edits: 01/28/24
Maybe?, yet I'd doubt it. At this point as I've learned over the years to stick with brands known to use only pure copper as their base metal, with a layer of say silver, followed by another of 24Kt gold as far as the gold versions go.
After having heard what's possible with first a silver plated ac and copper iec, followed by now silver ac and gold iec, as of yesterday, as since around 6:48 this morning until now, I'm looking to replace the rhodium ac's on the two Accuphase cords I've placed onto the bedroom system.
Chris ( Kam ) got this one right, while rhodium does offer a somewhat larger soundstage across one's listening area, it isn't as 3 dimensional or holographic in the same manner as the silver plated option, which in our space has artists | musicians properly placed as if in unison like a professional ranked marching band, where precision is vital. This placement of instruments has me more and more absorbed in how each music technique ( good, or bad? ) shines through more clearly..., I'm listening to Marc Copland Trio playing the track " The Bell Tolls " at this very second and the interaction between his piano | Drew Gress on Bass | Bill Stewart on Drums is simply moving, I've long felt since 1968, I've never heard a record label with recorded drums ( essentially cymbals | little percussive sounds ) quite as clearly | cleanly as ECM Records, where to my mind some of the recordings on Posi-Tone or CrissCross come in a close second and third.
With jazz, it's often how the acoustic bass, followed by the drum kit and pianist catches me just right, where everything simply sounds on song ( as in clipping on all cylinders ) as if the musicians themselves are seriously enjoying themselves, as opposed to how some are simply looking for a check, and their playing rather boring spotlights this all to easily for someone with an ear for pitch, as well as an emotional attachment from the music itself, no need for HiFi parlor tricks, I'm more than content with the plugs as they're, yet with an open mind as always be keen on seeing what your findings are?.
Yellow - White Metal indeed.
Hello guys,
I have been following this thread with great interest and I have been exchanging emails with Oscar occasionally. I decided to ask some questions here as they could benefit others too. So here it goes:
1) How does the modified Accuphase cable compare with the Grey Knight / Xangsane P-6008Ag power cable? Which one do you prefer?
2) Has anyone attempted to change the AC and IEC connectors of the above Xangsane cable?
Thanks guys and I really appreciated the effort and time of all of you.
Hello Greg,
As far as I'm aware only Dantheman and I've the Greg Knight GK-9008Ag PC, where in my case it easily surpassed | eventually replaced both of the Viborg 1606 | 1501, as well as two different models of the NEARdost ( Odin 2 | Odin Gold ) PCs which were first placed on a Pathos Acoustics Classic Model One MK ll hybrid integrated amp, followed by being used on a Naim Audio SuperNait 3, which was the first time I actually thought to try a silver plated copper power cord on either.
To say I was immediately impressed with the sense of spaciousness | silence to notes | better grip on the IEC plugs was enough for it to become my primary cord in said location in two different setup throughout our space. Yet admittedly I did change out the stock Rhodium blades, as I wasn't certain of their true to copper base metal roots, and used a Monosaudio M109R rhodium AC | IeGO 8075 Copper IEC, where both have remained since their inception, which might change now that I've two sets of both Silver Plated Copper and Gold Plated Copper AC | IEC's on the way.
Yet as it stands..., but the Greg Knight | Accuphase ( the latter modified with said Silver | Copper plugs plays very very nicely ) of which I see as being here for the long haul, as I've sworn off even looking at other brands or type of wiring as far as PCs go. Each offers a different set of sonic features which draw me into the music in such a manner whereas more costlier cords couldn't approach | in fact for the sole purpose of being used on my music server, the Accuphase replaced essentially a $600 Silver Plated Copper Cord with Pure Silver - Rhodium Plated plugs on both ends, of which I missed this cords sense of speed | snapping bass line | top end extension and so on within the first two days or so, but as my ears | senses began to adjust to a more refined | beautiful | relaxed type of presentation I found it took the slightly edge off of the everSOLO DMP-A6, of which some referred to as bright, whereas I on the other hand heard it as detailed, of which I've come to prefer over an overly warm | watered down type of signature which only purpose is to put me to sleep even faster.
Said cord in which the Accuphase PC replaced:
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650045790-jena-labs-crimson-red-rx-power-cord-iego-8095-ac-iec-plugs/
In my world, as this statement might come across to some as being brash?, it will always comedown to how I hear " Mi-Fi " as carefully voiced to suit not someone else's taste or preferences, but my own.
At this point I can only focus on looking outwardly | towards the future, which both both of these PCs have secured a spot in my system | as well life..., one more custom made Monosaudio Silver Plated Copper AC to be shipped, as shown above, and I'm done with the whole concept of PCs, for that I'm certain ( or am I? ) the shadow knows.
Oscar,
thanks for our response and as always I appreciate your input.
I think I will order this week some Accuphase and some Grey Knight power cables. The plan is to order enough of them and fit them with different connectors and compare the said cables. I have enough connectors except the silver plated ones. I may have to order some of them too.
Do you feel they need some burning/ settling time?
I will post my findings once the items are ordered, received and modified.
Thanks again!
Greg,As always | often you're more than welcome. In life I've come to believe in what " I hear " and only feel the desire to speak on them publicly as I've to believe many would in fact understand why I love both of these power cords. Much like some make generalizations on tube brands like the European Sisters they've offered called, like Amperex | Mullard | Telefunken, yet more importantly is the actual factory each were produced in, carries more weight, as they were often built in different locations, where some factories offered a far better sound than another | even then, how does each of these compare to say tubes made by CSF Thompson or Mazda " Long Black Plates | D-Getter NOS 1952-56 "( France ) or TEN Kobe or NEC " Long Grey Plates | Square Getter NOS 1956-63 " ( Japan ) or Lorenz " Long Black Plates | D-Getter NOS 1951-57 " ( Germany ), one needs to have a solid point of reference, lest they wish to settle on the more commonly found brands from any given era, while not willing to invest in the more advanced or musical versions made to date.
Areas like tubes | turntables | cartridges | now cabling looms are where I've spent decades studying what's what, and while I grew tired of posting as far back as 2016, it's only when I feel something needs to be shared with others, that I feel obliged to put fingers to keyboard ( pad ) and make an effort to share said findings ( discoveries ) once again in hopes that others will get it?, and if not?, I won't lose a bit of sleep, especially knowing as the old song went " I did it my way ", and glad that I've followed my own path, as opposed to being misled by others whom seemingly at times choose to remain clueless, which I'm more than okay will.
To study said items is knowledge | which in itself turns to wisdom | once learned after having lived with, one then knows truth.
I don't believe there's not much one can't hear with either of them straight out of their respective boxes, that won't shine through, but changing out the blades according to one's chosen flavor is vital.
Once again...-, you're welcome.
O_o scar
Edits: 01/29/24
That's simply wonderful new, and one I've to add I had concluded would be the direction I was looking to pursue. Yet I was going with the Vanguard Silver Plated Copper AC | matching Gold Plated Copper IEC, but can with your assessment see doing this the other way around, if for no other reason than to avoid cleaning the silver plated copper ac male blade on occasion as the result of them blackening overtime.
As I once again read through Chris's statement on how he felt rhodium offers a larger soundstage | while at this point, especially with the Accuphase PC, I'd much rather focus on getting that last ounce of snap and extended top end from it.
So it definitely seems we're both on the same page | I applaud your efforts in finding your way, as it happens to be the exact path I'm on.
Great job ;-)
Not sure about back to front from what I have found, I would say there will be a difference though, let's see what you find. BTW the soundscape is more advanced/ larger especially the hidden depths ,than rhodium and copper. Have no fear on achieving your desired top end , more defined, I would say in a timbre way.
Let's see. BTW I have a spare gold iec from the cyko offering not in use so I would just need the silver / copper plug to do a compare on the back to front I have just said.Just a heads up, remember the Chinese new year vacation looming.
Edits: 01/26/24 01/26/24
I just purchased both a Viborg VF503G | Monosaudio F101G Gold Plated Copper IEC's to go with the Viborg VM503S Silver AC, as well as the Vanguard FI-60G Gold Plated Copper AC to go with the Viborg VM503S Silver IEC that's placed in the drawer | so I'm set on trying it both ways around.
Now let me set those other plating types aside for now, as in out of sight | out of mind. I trust you enough to know it isn't in your head, and would like to say thanks again for your open-mindedness on all of this, it makes sharing that much easier when one comes across like minded | spirited souls.
Take care young man | until next time then.
My only concern is their hybrid design of using separate runs of silver plated copper wires within the pure copper outer runs. The worst power cord of which I bought off eBay awhile back offers said hybrid design, yet it was taken out of my system in less then one track, talk about in your face..., there's no way in hell this would ever be called a musical power cord | I've to,admit that I came away loving the fit of the angled plugs though:https://www.ebay.com/itm/175486605690?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=acgppPTnT6i&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=12wYTLIlRo-&var=474804671152&widget_ver=artemis&media=EMAIL
I'll be following your move on this one. And only pursue once you've given the green light.
And I'd like to hear your thoughts on using gold plated copper plugs on the Accuphase, shouod you ever wish to explore this option as well?. I've two more plugs to buy and I do believe I'll be calling it a day on what's what on this cord.
And lastly..., while it seems you're very taken with the combination of using a rhodium ac | copper female, I've to urge you to consider buying a single Viborg silver plated copper male before settling on said tandem, you owe this one to yourself. What I'm hearing at this very moment is simply wonderful.
Edits: 01/24/24 01/24/24
No , I wont be purchasing , yes easy for me to do the gold plated swap out, will let you know whenever, no rush though , thanks for the heads up on the Viborg silver plated option , I will have a look.
Understood | as I'm hesitant myself on going said route of anything hybrid based, I'll stick with the Accuphase as my sole copper based power cord | as well as the Greg Knight, but will be purchasing both a Viborg rhodium plated copper male | stablemate gold plated copper female by week's end.
If nothing else at least they'll be here as you say " should the mood strikes me to try something different? ". And I once again believe what I was told in private by 3 manufacturer's of power plugs whom all mentioned to me in their letters, that they both much prefer silver plated copper plugs over rhodium or gold plated versions, of which I count myself now amongst its proponents, call it what one likes, I'm a believer in what's heard, not written on paper.
It merely seems to offer the very very of all worlds | in a more effortless manner, where nothing pops out at you until the recording calls for it...-, the overall scale | balance are off the charts, YMMV?. " BUT ", what if I'm ( there were ) right?. It's worth knowing if for no other reason than to simply know the truth.
Yes, and I do have two Accuphase cords with silver, and adore them too, so I guess I will be trying the silver plated Viborg ones then in the Viborg plastic casings and swap them out to the Accuphase, anyway the Xangsane rhodium ones I have will go to the subwoofer and a linear power supply.
To recap Viborg silver plated plug and unplated copper iec connectors.
I may just order another Accuphase pc and that's me done in this department too.
Tangram,The thing to take into account is I'm using mine like Judith did in more of a hybrid form using two different brands | said Viborg VM503S silver plated copper ac male alongside a Monosaudio F101 copper iec female, so basically it's taking the different plating flavors of each brand ( model ) and offers a sound which isn't therefore struck in the camp ( house sound ) of either brand, yet collectively offers a very very very balanced presentation.
So as I stands, I'm only looking to buy a Vanguard FI-60M carbon fiber | silver plated copper male, as well as sample one of the Viborg VF503G or Monosaudio F101G gold plated copper female plugs, for the sake of knowing that I didn't overlook any other possibility?. As usual I tend to browse between eBay or AliExpress were I'm able to buy what's needed individually as opposed to being forced to buy a set as seems to be the norm on Amazon.
I've about 3 different brands of rhodium plated copper males just sitting here unused as the result of allowing the silver plated one to settle in on its own, and can't fantom going in any other direction anytime in the foreseeable future.
Logically I tend to once again gravitate towards the plugs made by both Viborg | Monosaudio ( sister companies ) as I was told by those guys that make connectors both actually use pure copper as the base metal on their plugs, whereas some Chinese makes are suspect | as I'm not one of you more daring or technical types, I don't feel comfortable filing down the uppermost plating to know what lies underneath.
I'm chewing on the thought of adding some rhodium plated copper solderless RCA connectors onto one or both pairs of the Xangsane IC's, and stopping there.
Edits: 01/24/24
Damn I've to pat myself on the back for being so resourceful.
silver mixed AC power cable audio power cable HI END Power cable
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It appears as if we've a winner here as well.
If only you're willing to share this cords link with me?, as it certainly looks the part.
Weird thing is I know that I'm very very happy with both of the Xangsane Sterling Silver IC's | the Greg Knight GK-6008Ag PC | Xangsane SP-6008 SCs | Accuphase PC, yet am always it seems watching cables, especially knowing what can be had for less than $200 these days, I'm more than content leaving those with deeper wallets | pursuing bragging rights to their own biases as well as devices.
Once again " I've to trust what I hear versus what's written in invisible ink, as far as I'm concerned ". Do share.
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