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RE: Aye, cynical I am

Posted by Jon Risch (B) on October 20, 2009 at 18:36:18

In Reply to: RE: Aye, cynical I am posted by Ethan Winer on October 20, 2009 at 10:53:55:

Ethan,

You are the one with an axe to grind, not me. I don't know how many times you have posted that tube traps are worthless, and strongly implied only your wall panels are the real deal.

I think that we have established via past posts, that you really don't know how a tube trap works, and that you don't understand what a pressure absorber is. Because of this, and other mistakes you have made, you continue to spread incorrect information about an acoustic device that you don't (and can't) sell. One that others could build as a DIY project, but if they did, that means they wouldn't buy your retail products.

I think that explains your attitude and why you get very defensive about your products. And why you are trying to put this off on me, as if I am somehow going after you personally.

Bottom line is, my statements are NOT untrue, you are wrong in the way I stated it.

And let's set the record straight, you took my statement out of context, what was posted was:
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Ethan is wrong about "...the barrier automatically makes the trap absorptive in principal, rather than pressured."

I didn't say you were wrong about everything, or most things, just that the statement that was attributed to you by japesgalore was wrong in most cases. I take it by your reaction that you are accepting ownership of that statement. OK.

However, that doesn't mean you get a free pass to put down a DIY option, and promote your retail products without having to answer to the actual truth of the matter.

If you continue to spread misinformation, then I will continue to call you on it. If you continue to attack me, I will continue to defend myself.

Another poster here in a recent thread, attributed this statement to you:
"Ethan Winer has posted saying that 24" wide 4" thick OC705 flat traps are equivalent in absorption to a 20" tube trap."
See:
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/16/166009.html

Did you actually say this, or the equivalent?
If so, then sorry, but this is also dead wrong, as evidenced by the data in my Part2 post at:
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/16/166078.html

Not even close.

So is that defamatory, or just the truth, backed up by hard data?

How is this anything but the scientific truth you often tout so strongly and loudly?

I will accept an apology though, and we don't have to make this thread, or the other one, about you and me, or RealTraps and cylinder traps, just the facts and the science and the reality of what the acoustic absorbers really do.

Jon Risch

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