In Reply to: You are just makin this stuff up posted by Analog Scott on June 7, 2012 at 04:06:47:
Obviously, I can't speak of your television program, although, I rather doubt the truth about your statement, since TV producers are extremely cautious about having any slip ups; hence, they'll always go for a sure thing, rather than risk something as unpredictable and unstable as a live performance. Here's an example for you: this thread. Read the head post.Fake ["lip synched"} performances on television are standard. Whitney Houston's singing of the national anthem here in the United States of America prior to the opening of the Super Bowl a few years back just pops into mind.
What many popular bands do, and have done for some time, is to allow the lead singer to sing live. All of the back-up vocals are pre-recorded and mixed in, as has been the rule for decades, going back to the late 70s, as I've mentioned. Depending on the band, the rest of the sound may be fake [pre-recorded], partially live [some actual playing on stage, with pre-recorded support computer synched and mixed in], or mostly live [rare these days].
Most so-called R&B acts are mostly faked in live performance. As are many others. It never fails to both amuse and anger me when see a Celtic Woman so-called "live" performance, where the violin player lady is running, jumping, skipping, hopping, and joyfully bounding across the stage ---all while continuing to play violin.
Running and playing violin!!!! Read that sentence again.
I used to play violin. It's a delicate instrument. You can't move much while doing it, cause the bow will just loose contact with the strings. You may watch the country bands that have violin players [still actually playing live] and note that even when they move while playing, it very restricted. Mostly, they just sway. It's physically imposible to play the instument while moving much. Forget running. Bounding. Hoping. Jumping.
Yet, there she is, Celtic Woman, running, skipping --- while the music from her violin pours out without even the slightest scrape. Scrape: something any violin player knows, can occur even if you're standing still and concentrating.
Lot's of popular music's still played fully live in local bars across the country. But, in an amazing number of them, technology driven semi-live has also taken over. In one such venue I listened to a rock band without any singers play with a singer and full harmony vocals. The singing was in perfect synchrony with the playing. Why? Cause vith voltage triggers, there're no timing issues. The band had the vocals pre-recorded, packed on the hard drive controling the entire performance, and voltage triggers set every song in motion.
None of this is new or shocking. Any street corner musician [anyone, you, me, anyone]can buy pre-recorded material on a thumb drive, plug it into their amp, then plug in their own instrument, any play with a full band...that isn't actaully there. And, you may go into any big city and find scores of street musicians doing just that. For some odd reason, you seem to want to deny the reality happening right in front of you.
Edits: 06/07/12
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Follow Ups
- I Really Wish I Were - Mike Porper 08:45:01 06/07/12 (23)
- Running and playing the violin. - J.R. 11:20:12 06/09/12 (6)
- OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Mike Porper 08:19:21 06/12/12 (5)
- RE: OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Analog Scott 22:39:06 06/12/12 (3)
- Thick As A Brick - Mike Porper 08:05:27 06/13/12 (2)
- Sarcasm is not a super power. - J.R. 09:08:59 06/13/12 (1)
- So True - Mike Porper 09:39:49 06/13/12 (0)
- The Eastern European music I like is tradition oriented. - J.R. 09:03:45 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: I Really Wish I Were - Analog Scott 14:06:54 06/07/12 (15)
- People Hear What They See - Mike Porper 14:26:49 06/07/12 (14)
- RE: People Hear What They See - Analog Scott 05:36:09 06/08/12 (13)
- You've Actually Supported My Point - Mike Porper 14:08:44 06/08/12 (12)
- Then your "point" and your assertions are two very different things - Analog Scott 09:28:31 06/09/12 (11)
- CUT........................... - Todd Krieger 22:18:18 06/11/12 (10)
- Since when is 95% a distortion of 95%? - Analog Scott 22:35:12 06/12/12 (4)
- When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Todd Krieger 17:26:10 06/13/12 (2)
- RE: When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Analog Scott 20:58:13 06/13/12 (1)
- Fine - Whatever - Time To Move On [nt] - Mike Porper 08:29:15 06/14/12 (0)
- 115% - Mike Porper 08:07:29 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: CUT........................... - David Smith 18:02:43 06/12/12 (4)
- RE: CUT........................... - Todd Krieger 17:34:39 06/13/12 (1)
- RE: CUT........................... - David Smith 18:02:43 06/13/12 (0)
- Switch between live singing and lip-synching during the performance of a single song - Mike Porper 09:52:23 06/13/12 (1)
- So can we agree that you are changing your claim from "95%" to "some"? - David Smith 11:09:25 06/13/12 (0)