OK - Starting To Get Tired of This

Posted by Mike Porper (A) on June 12, 2012 at 08:19:21

In Reply to: Running and playing the violin. posted by J.R. on June 9, 2012 at 11:20:12:

Firstly, most of the pop/rock defensive responses have been pretty much what I've always gotten from pop/rock listeners: denial at all costs.May I suugest that what you should be doing is taking a skeptical look, a questioning inquiry into how much of the pop music you follow live really is live, instead of going into defensive auto-pilot mode. Not all politicians are corrupt, but are going to ignore the crooks because you can find some honest ones?

Concerning violin playing, I said this, exactly:
"the violin player lady is running, jumping, skipping, hopping, and joyfully bounding across the stage ---all while continuing to play violin".

Running.

Your E-Euro guy doesn't do that. I watched your U-Tube video. Firstly, thanks for making me suffer through that Eastern European idea of popular music [more on that, below]. Your fiddler doesn't ever run AND play. He holds the instrument in the manner of a country fiddler [tight against his chest]. He moves around a lot, but mostly in a swaying, stalking swoop. At one point he does actually break into a run [why? who knows?], but that's when he's not playing at all. But, his type of stalking, swooping movement wasn't what I was talking about.

And, he mostly plays 3 closely spaced notes; not hard to do. With his amplified instrument, he's not concerned about beauty of tone, and he didn't bother with any vibrato in this sequence, which would've been much harder to do.

Fiddlers have been doing this sort of swooping movement thing for decades. Long before these Eastern Euros stumbled onto this stuff, country fiddler Doug Kershaw was doing it far better.

Finally, I'm about to say something that I probably shouldn't, but, what the hell. You may like and love this sort of music. That's great. I respect your freedom to choose anything you want as an object of admiration. OTOH, I have the same freedom. And, the right to extend my opinion.

I'm subjected to pop music from E. Europe on a regular basis [against my will]. IMHO, it's amazing how bad it is. The U-Tube attached here is far, far from the worse of it. But, it's pretty bad. Listen to it. It's nothing other than a really poor imitation of early 70's jazz rock, but without the either the musical inspiration or the technical virtuosity. As is always, always, always the case with these E-Euros, you get the sense that they went ga-ga over anything that filtered their way from the West, and they slavishly copy all of it, but without any insight or originality. Again, IMO. But, you insisted on sticking the video for me to see; so, there it is.

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Forget Vanilli- 95% of All Pop-Rock-Techo-Etc is Lip Sync/Played - Mike Porper 12:18:33 06/04/12 (28)

You are just makin this stuff up - Analog Scott 04:06:47 06/07/12 (25)

Yep - David Smith 20:02:16 06/07/12 (0)

I Really Wish I Were - Mike Porper 08:45:01 06/07/12 (23)

Running and playing the violin. - J.R. 11:20:12 06/09/12 (6)

OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Mike Porper 08:19:21 06/12/12 (5)

RE: OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Analog Scott 22:39:06 06/12/12 (3)

Thick As A Brick - Mike Porper 08:05:27 06/13/12 (2)

Sarcasm is not a super power. - J.R. 09:08:59 06/13/12 (1)

So True - Mike Porper 09:39:49 06/13/12 (0)

The Eastern European music I like is tradition oriented. - J.R. 09:03:45 06/12/12 (0)

RE: I Really Wish I Were - Analog Scott 14:06:54 06/07/12 (15)

People Hear What They See - Mike Porper 14:26:49 06/07/12 (14)

RE: People Hear What They See - Analog Scott 05:36:09 06/08/12 (13)

You've Actually Supported My Point - Mike Porper 14:08:44 06/08/12 (12)

Then your "point" and your assertions are two very different things - Analog Scott 09:28:31 06/09/12 (11)

CUT........................... - Todd Krieger 22:18:18 06/11/12 (10)

Since when is 95% a distortion of 95%? - Analog Scott 22:35:12 06/12/12 (4)

When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Todd Krieger 17:26:10 06/13/12 (2)

RE: When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Analog Scott 20:58:13 06/13/12 (1)

Fine - Whatever - Time To Move On [nt] - Mike Porper 08:29:15 06/14/12 (0)

115% - Mike Porper 08:07:29 06/13/12 (0)

RE: CUT........................... - David Smith 18:02:43 06/12/12 (4)

RE: CUT........................... - Todd Krieger 17:34:39 06/13/12 (1)

RE: CUT........................... - David Smith 18:02:43 06/13/12 (0)

Switch between live singing and lip-synching during the performance of a single song - Mike Porper 09:52:23 06/13/12 (1)

So can we agree that you are changing your claim from "95%" to "some"? - David Smith 11:09:25 06/13/12 (0)

Way to go Mike Porper! - Timbo in Oz 00:04:56 06/07/12 (0)

I'm With You Here.............. - Todd Krieger 20:47:40 06/06/12 (0)

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OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Mike Porper 08:19:21 06/12/12 (5)

RE: OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Analog Scott 22:39:06 06/12/12 (3)

Thick As A Brick - Mike Porper 08:05:27 06/13/12 (2)

Sarcasm is not a super power. - J.R. 09:08:59 06/13/12 (1)

So True - Mike Porper 09:39:49 06/13/12 (0)

The Eastern European music I like is tradition oriented. - J.R. 09:03:45 06/12/12 (0)

OK - Starting To Get Tired of This

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