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In Reply to: RE: Dude, he's guilty of civil fraud. posted by ghost of olddude55 on March 02, 2024 at 07:06:37
It's all BS. He went to get a loan and stated what he felt his collateral was worth X amount of money. The bank checked out his property to see what they felt it was worth, then agreed on a loan and gave him the money. The loan was paid off to the bank including interest and both parties were happy. A person comes along, not having anything to do with the transaction and decides he estimated his property too high and prosecutes him using a Liberal Trump hating judge and fine him $354M. It's all BS.
Tell me where the fraud is? This type of loan goes on between the borrower and lender everyday and it is how business is done. DUDE! Lmao
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One set was actual p/l
Second was for banks and insurance ,banks are always happy with the extra value on their books showing large assets for shareholders
Third was for state and local taxes,which was completely undervalued
So he owes a lot of unpaid taxes for the last 20 years
This was also a misuse use of the 1031 exchange law
He's the biggest Karen with bad makeup crying all the time.
Silence is golden duct tape is silver
...if they're getting their news on the civil fraud conviction from, ah, certain sources, they don't know about any of this.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
But that's not reality according to New York's laws. He had his day in court and lost. Guilty as charged.
For the record, I don't disagree that people--too many people, particularly people with a lot of money--commit civil fraud all the time. But that isn't any excuse. If I got pulled over for speeding and told the cop "but everybody does it" how far do you think that would get me?
Dunno about you, but I believe in law and order, regardless of who, and regardless of how much money they have.
By the way Judge Engeron was elected, not appointed. You don't know what his political beliefs are, neither does anybody else except the judge himself. Anybody says anything different, it's pure speculation.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Let's see what happens when it's all over. It's election interference, no matter how it's portrayed. But that's ok because a lot of people see it for wHat it is. Did you see the video where Laticia James told other businessmen in NY they didn't have to worry because they weren't Trump? That says a lot.
The DA doesn't have to be impartial.
The defendant requested a non-jury trial, the DA can't demand one. The defendant's attorneys didn't think they had a chance in hell of making a case in front of a jury.
The defendant's attorneys didn't appeal the verdict, only the amount of the penalty.
You know, you, me, and a hell of a lot of other people would love to shake up the Federal government and make it more responsive to us instead constantly following the money.
But I'm not going to trust a guy who stiffs his own attorneys, and who's name is becoming synonymous with "fraud" (see: his foundation, his university, unpaid taxes, unpaid loans, unpaid mom and pop contractors, fake electors, and the upcoming criminal fraud case).
Your methods may vary. But, so what? You're OK in my book. I don't care who you vote for.
And frankly, I don't even care all that much if your guy wins in November because replacing one old white guy with another old white guy isn't going to budge the needle.
And your guy did some good things during his 4 years. Operation Warp Speed. The Covid stimulus payments. He wanted to go a lot further than Congress when it came to the stimmies.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Edits: 03/02/24
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