So here's the setup. I'll be comparing the TeraDak 12-Volt 10-Amp linear power supply against the stock switcher that was removed from the Mac Mini. I will also compare against a 12-Volt battery. Results will be posted later in the week.
PS Audio NuWave DAC, Mac Mini, TeraDak Power Supply, ARC VSI-60 Amp, Tannoy Definition D500 Speakers.
- iPad Visual Remote Control, Mac OS X 10.8.5, 24/96 AIFF files on Mac, Audirvana Plus: Memory Play, Exclusive access
mode, Direct mode, Integer mode, SysOptimizer.TeraDak 12-Volt 10-Amp linear power supply powering the Mac Mini. Power supply heat sinks don't even get warm
as the Mac Mini is drawing less than 9-watts while playing music. The Mac Mini case remains cold to the touch.Decided to try a 12-Volt battery on the Mini just for grins. And why not since it's so easy to do now that the Mini
requires only +12VDC for its external power source.Attached my cheap 12V 7Ah SLA battery I had lying around. Saw nearly 6-Amp peak current draw during bootup
then down to less than 9-Watts power consumption while playing music.
Here's the output of the TeraDak linear power supply under 1-Amp load measured before the additional filtering
within the Mac Mini. Noise is about 1.5 mV-pp (0.53 mVrms), not bad at all.
Here's the output of the battery under 1-Amp load. Noise is bit over 3 mVpp (1 mVrms), still not bad but not as
good as the TeraDak.
Here's what's at the output of the TeraDak power supply with the Mini turned ON*. The battery looked
pretty much the same. This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself.
*20MHz BW enabled on scope otherwise too much 'fuzz' to be viewable and time scale changed to 10mS/Div.The scope screen shots below were just added 22:25 PST. Was able to get a better periodic waveform to trigger on
when I turned on a screen saver on the Mac Mini.Transient voltage 'droop' on the TeraDak 12V linear power supply.
Transient voltage 'droop' on the 12V 7Ah SLA battery. The battery is better in this regard.
The battery appears to produce more wide band noise under a steady state DC load. However, the battery proved to be 'stiffer' in terms of transient loads.
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Topic - Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 18:27:01 12/21/14 (138)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Garg0yle 19:12:07 12/27/14 (2)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 13:05:12 12/28/14 (1)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Garg0yle 15:27:50 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Jwm 08:32:39 12/25/14 (5)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 09:39:39 12/25/14 (4)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Jwm 09:47:36 12/25/14 (3)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 14:23:48 12/25/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Jwm 10:06:25 12/25/14 (1)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 14:25:40 12/25/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Sprezza Tura 13:49:49 12/24/14 (3)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 16:14:32 12/24/14 (2)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Sprezza Tura 16:18:52 12/24/14 (1)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Bob_C 16:29:04 12/24/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - MRMB 14:42:09 12/23/14 (3)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 14:46:37 12/23/14 (2)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - MRMB 15:05:36 12/23/14 (1)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 16:37:51 12/23/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - soundchekk 04:05:47 12/23/14 (2)
- RE: "Does the mess on the computer powerrails/ground finds its way to your DAC?" - Ivan303 10:04:13 12/23/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 06:59:31 12/23/14 (0)
- " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - beppe61 03:33:48 12/23/14 (8)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - fmak 01:14:32 12/24/14 (3)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - beppe61 01:50:18 12/24/14 (2)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - fmak 22:11:57 12/25/14 (1)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - AbeCollins 13:25:45 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - AbeCollins 07:09:26 12/23/14 (3)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - beppe61 11:18:47 12/23/14 (2)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - AbeCollins 12:42:22 12/23/14 (1)
- RE: " This is noise generated by the computer, not by the power supply itself. " - beppe61 13:19:07 12/23/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Tony Lauck 14:11:56 12/22/14 (2)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 16:41:04 12/22/14 (0)
- 30 Hz and lf - fmak 15:57:04 12/22/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Thorsten 12:48:56 12/22/14 (1)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 16:35:19 12/22/14 (0)
- my suggestion - Gordon Rankin 08:48:16 12/22/14 (73)
- Interesting that we now have others who are making them -t - Sordidman 18:39:05 12/23/14 (63)
- Making them? - AbeCollins 07:48:58 12/24/14 (62)
- Yes, audiophile mainboards -t - Sordidman 10:26:59 12/24/14 (61)
- RE: Yes, audiophile mainboards -yes - fmak 15:42:29 12/25/14 (1)
- RE: Yes, audiophile mainboards -yes - AbeCollins 15:45:33 12/25/14 (0)
- Who's making them ? - nt - AbeCollins 11:37:13 12/24/14 (58)
- Sonore - nt - Sordidman 11:59:31 12/24/14 (57)
- RE: Sonore - nt - AbeCollins 12:46:26 12/24/14 (56)
- RE: Sonore - nt - Sprezza Tura 13:47:48 12/24/14 (55)
- RE: Snore - nt - AbeCollins 16:11:49 12/24/14 (35)
- It uses a custom built mainboard made in Switzerland - Sordidman 10:55:32 12/26/14 (34)
- "unreasonably rejecting plain & clear evidence." big rolleyes to that one. - Ugly 19:10:43 01/01/15 (1)
- Wow, those are super big assumptions Batman. - Sordidman 12:55:27 01/07/15 (0)
- RE: It uses a custom built mainboard made in Switzerland - AbeCollins 11:33:56 12/26/14 (31)
- "we" & "you" haven't exposed ANY of these products - Sordidman 11:56:05 12/26/14 (30)
- RE: "we" & "you" haven't exposed ANY of these products - AbeCollins 16:46:05 12/26/14 (25)
- "ballistic" - Sordidman 09:45:55 12/28/14 (22)
- RE: "ballistic" - AbeCollins 15:07:40 12/28/14 (21)
- RE: "ballistic" - Sordidman 16:00:17 12/28/14 (20)
- Your imagination gone wild........ - AbeCollins 08:46:57 12/29/14 (19)
- (please grow up) Your straw man - Sordidman 10:22:04 12/29/14 (13)
- RE: (please grow up) Your straw man - AbeCollins 10:40:11 12/29/14 (12)
- RE: (please grow up) Your straw man - Sordidman 10:56:18 12/29/14 (11)
- RE: (please grow up) Your straw man - AbeCollins 12:26:21 12/29/14 (9)
- There are only 4 or 5 products - Sordidman 14:02:46 12/29/14 (8)
- RE: There are only 4 or 5 products - Bob_C 23:38:29 01/03/15 (7)
- RE: There are only 4 or 5 products - Sordidman 12:37:36 01/07/15 (6)
- RE: There are only 4 or 5 products - Bob_C 13:57:05 01/07/15 (5)
- RE: There are only 4 or 5 products - Sordidman 14:38:34 01/07/15 (4)
- RE: There are only 4 or 5 products - Bob_C 14:54:38 01/07/15 (3)
- If you don't have time - Sordidman 15:12:07 01/07/15 (2)
- RE: If you don't have time - Bob_C 15:26:15 01/07/15 (1)
- Thanks for taking the time - Sordidman 17:14:25 01/07/15 (0)
- RE: (please grow up) Your straw man - Tony Lauck 12:09:39 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: Your imagination gone wild........ - Tony Lauck 09:12:02 12/29/14 (4)
- Shills and peddlers of questionable products get - Sordidman 10:31:36 12/29/14 (2)
- RE: Shills and peddlers of questionable products get - Tony Lauck 11:41:45 12/29/14 (1)
- don't worry, legal consequences wouldn't be applicable - Sordidman 14:01:10 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: Your imagination gone wild........ - AbeCollins 10:06:24 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: "we" & "you" haven't exposed ANY of these products - Mercman 17:10:35 12/26/14 (1)
- Merc, which of the 5 products in question have you heard of - Sordidman 09:55:58 12/28/14 (0)
- RE: "we" & "you" haven't exposed ANY of these products - Tony Lauck 13:41:12 12/26/14 (3)
- Right, but almost never happens - Sordidman 10:08:36 12/28/14 (0)
- Waste of time - fmak 16:04:06 12/26/14 (1)
- You're here, posting stuff, on the internets -t - Sordidman 10:10:16 12/28/14 (0)
- RE: Sonore - nt - Tony Lauck 15:24:14 12/24/14 (18)
- There's very little marketing "smoke" in the high end - Sordidman 10:35:04 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: Sonore - nt - Sprezza Tura 15:32:12 12/24/14 (16)
- RE: Sonore - Agree - fmak 19:03:02 12/24/14 (15)
- RE: Sonore - Agree - Ugly 00:05:27 12/26/14 (1)
- RE: Sonore - Agree-if - fmak 05:46:20 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: Sonore - Agree - Sprezza Tura 19:56:01 12/24/14 (12)
- I don't understand the highly charged & emotional investment - Sordidman 10:43:01 12/26/14 (2)
- RE: I don't understand the highly charged & emotional investment - Sprezza Tura 13:15:50 12/26/14 (1)
- Yeah.... that sounds really right to me -t - Sordidman 11:08:34 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: Sonore - Agree - Mercman 03:23:38 12/25/14 (8)
- FWIW, I don't think that we can call the Sonore a "server" - Sordidman 10:57:59 12/26/14 (6)
- I stand corrected! (NT) - Mercman 12:06:50 12/26/14 (5)
- RE: I stand corrected! (NT) - Tony Lauck 13:52:24 12/26/14 (4)
- RE: I stand corrected! (NT) - Mercman 13:58:50 12/26/14 (3)
- who? Has reason completely left this place? - Sordidman 16:04:28 12/28/14 (2)
- RE: who? Has reason completely left this place? - Tony Lauck 09:17:07 12/29/14 (1)
- Exactly! -t - Sordidman 09:58:06 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: Sonore - Agree - Sprezza Tura 07:51:06 12/25/14 (0)
- RE: my suggestion- Entirely agree - fmak 16:05:26 12/22/14 (1)
- RE: my suggestion- Entirely agree - AbeCollins 16:37:30 12/22/14 (0)
- RE: my suggestion - AbeCollins 09:17:08 12/22/14 (6)
- For audio use, only ... - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 08:33:38 12/24/14 (5)
- RE: For audio use, only ... - AbeCollins 09:16:09 12/24/14 (4)
- RE: For audio use, only ... - Bob_C 21:38:44 12/24/14 (3)
- RE: For audio use, only ... - AbeCollins 09:44:58 12/25/14 (2)
- RE: For audio use, only ... - Bob_C 09:53:13 12/25/14 (1)
- RE: For audio use, only ... - AbeCollins 10:29:01 12/25/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - fmak 23:32:13 12/21/14 (4)
- Not always - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 07:50:28 12/22/14 (0)
- RE: Please give me some 'fast track learning' enlightened one. - AbeCollins 23:51:24 12/21/14 (2)
- I already ahve over many months - fmak 01:38:17 12/22/14 (1)
- RE: I already ahve over many months - AbeCollins 09:22:06 12/22/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Bob_C 22:00:49 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - audioengr 20:34:31 12/21/14 (22)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - fmak 23:36:06 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 20:42:19 12/21/14 (20)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - audioengr 10:42:09 12/23/14 (6)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 19:22:56 12/23/14 (5)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Tony Lauck 10:02:13 12/25/14 (3)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - audioengr 11:24:21 12/27/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 11:10:29 12/25/14 (1)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - audioengr 11:26:10 12/27/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - audioengr 11:38:39 12/24/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - Ugly 08:25:20 12/23/14 (8)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - AbeCollins 13:00:27 12/23/14 (7)
- billions of load points - Tony Lauck 10:08:27 12/25/14 (4)
- RE: billions of load points - Ugly 23:41:27 12/25/14 (2)
- RE: billions of load points - Tony Lauck 09:01:24 12/26/14 (1)
- RE: billions of load points - Ugly 19:39:38 12/31/14 (0)
- RE: billions of load points - AbeCollins 12:12:20 12/25/14 (0)
- preliminary functional test - fmak 01:20:17 12/24/14 (1)
- Simple question for fmak - AbeCollins 08:01:03 12/24/14 (0)
- 'droops' are detrimental ' - fmak 01:39:45 12/22/14 (3)
- RE: 'droops' are detrimental ' - AbeCollins 09:07:27 12/22/14 (2)
- RE: 'droops' are detrimental '- who is - fmak 16:07:36 12/22/14 (1)
- RE: 'droops' are detrimental '- who is - AbeCollins 13:07:53 12/23/14 (0)
- RE: Linear Power Supply or Battery on Mac Mini - pics - internethandle 20:20:57 12/21/14 (0)