In Reply to: I suspect we are now talking about subjective perception ... posted by Christine Tham on May 10, 2006 at 15:50:35:
"I don't mean to slight either your listening preferences or Alex's design skills, but if you prefer DSD converted to PCM on a specific player then it's probably for euphonic or player specific reasons rather than the sound actually being "better"."I have no argument against that, it makes perfect sense to me and I agree...but it's also almost an universal consensus of all APL owners, in regard to their players. (Unless I'm mistaken, one can't do that with the Meitner system).
"There are myriad of possible reasons why on a specific player and/or DAC it may yield a subjective improvement. For example, the clock on the 3910 probably has higher jitter for DSD rates, and converting to PCM may make the issue less pronounced. Filtering ultrasonic noise may improve playback depending on your amp/speakers (it did on my old system). You may simply prefer the sound of the decimation filter. The DAC itself may be better at PCM than DSD (not surprising given it's probably a hybrid architecture)."
I don't have enough engineering knowledge to say whether that may, or may not be the case. I can tell you though that conversion to PCM sounds better, more natural, and more organic to me, - whatever the heck I'm listening to...
And, sure, it's a given that it's a subjective choice: as EVERYTHING is in high end audio's artistic interpretation. A designer decides to use Hovland caps, or no caps, or go buy the special super duper oil and build her own caps: they're all artistic, subjective choices...
In this particular, I think, (if I'm not totally mistaken), that an APL owner forgot to reset their player back to Source Direct DSD after watching a DVD and reported to other owners that the PCM conversion sounded much better to them...
Cheers,
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- Re: I suspect we are now talking about subjective perception ... - Sordidman 16:12:42 05/10/06 (6)
- Thanks for your gracious reply - Christine Tham 17:32:11 05/10/06 (3)
- Of course... - Sordidman 20:06:31 05/10/06 (2)
- Re: Of course... - Christine Tham 23:12:04 05/10/06 (1)
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