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In Reply to: RE: Looks pretty but at $5000 MSRP ?? posted by RGA on November 11, 2021 at 15:02:51:
You are certainly correct that the ARC Abe own(s)(ed) will hold its value better than the Rogue, but then again, who cares if it sounds like a thin solid state amp? The Rogue Cronus Magnum amps sound wonderful (I have a CMII) and is an exception to your perception of high powered PP tube amps, all in my opinion and to my ears, that is. It doesn't have a particularly lush or bloomy sound, but it is open and airy with none of the hardness of solid state. YMMV.
I also have found the Conrad Johnson PP tube amps to be an exception to your rule, at least when paired with the right equipment. I have't listened to the newest models, but the CAV50, MV55 and Premier 11A are great choices on the used market. The Premier 11A has a leaner and faster sound with 6550 tubes than the others, but boy does it sing in my system with Devore Super Nines and a Rogue RP-5 preamp. It is neither solid state sounding, nor "polite" sounding as Abe experienced in his system. And yet it does have a bit more tube magic than the CMII. I also loved the sound of the original EL34 MV60 but found the MV60E to sound dry and etched (but that was in a different system). Dunno if those qualify as high power, but they're certainly more flexible than SET.
I love the looks of this new integrated though, and wouldn't balk at the price if it sounds as good as it looks. But it'd have to depart from the more traditional ARC house sound for sure (for me anyway).
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- I tend to agree with you for the most part, but there are exceptions - JoshT 10:33:02 11/12/21 (0)
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