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In Reply to: RE: "giant killing" class D amps? posted by morricab on January 3, 2018 at 00:22:47:
again... everyone is taking "giant killing" too literally here and viewing it in absolute score keeping terms instead of the "insane bang for the buck" way i intended.NAD has long had a reputation for giant killing, so a little cheap amp that TOTALLY destroys an alleged giant killer (killing a giant killer) is an apt analogy as far as i'm concerned.
while i don't know exactly WHAT (all?) component in a dragonfly 1.0/hot rodded mc cormack DNA/vander$teen 5A signal chain was causing the system to sound so thick and lush... i'd take ANY class D amp i've owned and my energy RC10s (if they didn't have flimsy cabinets that resonate when you plug their distortion holes) over THAT $25,000+ system.
the system DID sound lovely, especially on vocals, but i'm a percussionist who needs bass that THUMPS (not booms) and treble that doesn't soften cowbells like the 5A system did and generally avoid vocals in favor of instrumentals. it just sounded thick & muffled, like NAD, to me.
for MY speed & details craving tastes, i can easily imagine a (better DAC than even CURRENT dragonflies) sabaj DA3/breeze audio TPA3116/miniphilharmonitor system slaying THAT $27,000 dragon with a more open and airy sound for about $1,000 after buying a laptop versus that lush sound that just wasn't to my liking at all.
THAT's why i'm drawn to class D, just like acoustic suspension & planars etc... speed & detail which = getting out of the way of the signal as far as i'm concerned. lush = thick & distorted to MY ears.
i imagine that speed & detail freaks are in the minority... that's OK... but i'm out to slay DIFFERENT giants than those that like that thick sludgy (blech!) sound.
i got into an argument with some troll who lost his mind because $1,200 maggie MG12s sound more realistic (ESPECIALLY in the bass!) than B&W 800s to me, convinced that somehow i was unquestionably wrong and that their OPINION (and tastes) was absolutely right. to me... the millisecond you slow transients down, you've committed blasphemy no matter if it tickles some people emotionally. (lies tend to do that! LOL)
i'll bet $20 here and now that maggie MG12s TOTALLY DESTROY bowers on a waterfall plot... the MOST IMPORTANT test for ANY driver by my tastes, but i prefer quality over quantity... especially when it's at the expense of DISTORTION (aka tuned RESONANCE, aka porting)
the very thing some seem to hate so much about class D (and acoustic suspension)... namely telling it like it is without euphonics is the very thing i love about it. it's hard to have an argument with anyone speaking a different language
Edits: 01/19/18
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