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In Reply to: RE: Hana Umami Blue posted by STEVE H on May 22, 2025 at 07:19:22
I need to hear the DS Audio.
Steve
If you lived closer you could hear mine.
See my post below. Had it for 18 months or so. It's not a fair fight between the DSA and the Hana.
nt
You are correct in that the cartridge and pre amp are 2.5x the price of the Hana by itself.
However, the DSA 003 cartridge by itself is the same price as the Hana. If one had no MC preamp and wanted to run a MC, you could easily spend $3.5k on a pre for a $2.5k MC cart. So price is a is a red herring. The unfair nature of the fight has everything to do with the superior technology involved with the optical approach rather than magnets and coils in the Hana.
There's not a single aspect of reproduction where the optical does not better a MC. A bold statement I know, but it's true. I will never go backwards to a MC again.
One could hope for this technology to be adopted, at least in part, by other phono cartridge manufacturers to create competetion and thus lower prices of this optical system. However, as beryllium is toxic and a difficult metal to utilize I think they will remain expensive. Still, if I'm ever looking to buy a phono cartridge in that price range I would consider a DS system.
Edits: 06/10/25
Nt.
Mark in NC
"The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts and our brains" -Paul Simon
There's a number of companies making the preamps for optical now, but to the best of my knowledge DSA are the only ones making cartridges - for now at least.
My Linn dealer sent me an email note a few weeks back following a visit and presentation by Gilad Tiefenbrun at his shop. The note was just to inform me that Mr. Tiefenbrun had mentioned during his presentation that Linn had built an optical preamp for testing and evaluation of the possibilities. So who knows how long before someone tries making their own cartridge?
Some competition couldn't hurt.
One would think DSA has the patent not pending, but in place, which another manufacturer would have to design around--a tricky thing to do without incurring legal questions about patent infringement. The effort is fun and challenging for the design team, but a worrisome scenario for any phono cartridge manufacturer, including DS Audio.
One might think so, however, DS Audio does not have a patent that would prevent others from developing or selling optical phono cartridges. On the contrary, the company has made its technology accessible and encourages industry-wide adoption, aiming to foster innovation and competition in this field.
That open source approach to their innovative technology is wonderful and heartening. Like John Elison, I had been thinking the ART1000 would be my next purchase. I'm re-thinking that thought now.
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