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In Reply to: RE: Well, Grohl's wrong. If you remove the extreme emotion and posted by rivervalley817 on June 26, 2021 at 10:07:09
This is where we agree - I am not a fan of mumblers - but then Bob Dylan is a mumbler and people love him and most of the grunge music - you would need to read the liner notes to understand a god damn thing they're singing.
I usually understand what Billie is singing - the young 20-year-olds who dig her still have their hearing. No hope for the 60 years olds on this board. WHAT? Speak Up? I can't hear what you're singing? You're wispy and I can't HEAR IT!? Bah - get off my lawn these kids with their green hair and their melancholy - What's it all about?
She is technically good at what she does - but her voice, I get, is not everyone's cup of tea. It's not my cup of tea because I am a bit older school and I prefer a more traditional kind of singer like Eva Cassidy or Ella Fitzgerald, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, or Whitney Houston, Heart etc. It's not easy to be someone who grew up with the big ballad vocals (the belting vocals) to get into someone like Billie Eilish. You have to search the net pretty hard to find her belting vocals.
And they do exists so she frustrates me a bit - especially when her inspiration is the singer Aurora who has a sublime voice - much MUCH better than Billie's and I like her songs much more and yet almost no one knows Aurora.
And as an English teacher in Hong Kong using music to teach the language I appreciate more clear singing voices with annunciation. So I prefer Aurora and even Avril Lavigne who is crystal clear and easy to understand. And almost always is fully dressed unlike most of what is out there. No gyrating butts and songs about tits.
I would listen to Aurora over Billie Eilish all day every day. Billie to me is more of a combination of Visual Artist/Singer. So for me, Billie needs to be appreciated in the modern music video world.
Aurora sells tickets standing on a stage singing.
Am really enjoying reading the back and forth posts on this comparison.
Especially as all the comments come from a male's perspective.
Dr. Hornicker: What are you doing here honey? You're not even hold enough to know how bad life gets.
Cecilia: "Obviously, Doctor, you've never been a 13-year-old girl."
"The Virgin Suicides"
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
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You raise a great point - Billie is not music targetted to us - and Dave Grohl has a 13-year-old daughter so he is partially looking at Billie through his daughter's eyes.
Still, empathy is the ability to put yourself in other people's shoes and try to see the world from different perspectives.
Add in a new generation with different belief systems than us old geezers and she speaks to her generation. Her music isn't really meant for us. And perhaps our generation isn't meant to get it or like it. People want her to be something they like or they understand. The older generation hated the Beatles after all.
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