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In Reply to: RE: NY Philharmonic ticket prices posted by Utley1 on March 11, 2025 at 06:28:56
"In the spirit of new exploitation theory during economic tariff ....chaos and their inability to get their costs down with 'burdensome union contracts'"
When you have 85-110 excellent musicians, and the associated support staff, and the very small (relatively speaking) venue capacity, and the facility cost, the product price will necessarily be high.
On the other hand, all professional orchestras have private and corporate sponsors, so, that should offset part of the ticket cost. So I generally agree that top orchestra ticket prices are beyond the reach of many people. On the other hand, "pop music" "stars" like Beyonce, Swift, etc. perform in very large venues seating 10,000+ people, and their ticket prices are just as high or higher. We went to a Andrea Bocelli concert, and the ticket price for our seats was $350 each (plus a parking fee), and that was in a sports arena which seats about 15,000 people (AA Center in Dallas). 'Course, he also had a full orchestra and chorus. (Fortunately, the tickets were given to us by a company owner, who got them from another...)
Anyway,...
I fail to see how this has anything to do with tariffs. I agree that some unions have let their power go to their heads, but I don't think they're the problem with regard to orchestras. I suspect that you've just got a burr under your saddle about something.
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...prices across-the-board, don't be surprised if we see even higher ticket prices going forward due to this cause. Entertainment costs won't be isolated from larger economic changes.
Mark in NC
"The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts and our brains" -Paul Simon
Cleveland Orchestra, certainly among the world's best orchestras, has excellent seats at a top price of $110, give or take. Oh, and there is parking underneath the hall for about $15.
Edits: 03/11/25
Nothing to do with tariffs ; Tariffs just change the mentality of everyone's business model. Recently purchased a CD player 4 months ago ;same CD play has increased 35%...Just grab what you can get.... Also NY Philharmonic and the entire center pays no rent to NYC I am pro-union but give me a break. The average stage hand makes $300,000 a year.
"The average stage hand makes $300,000 a year. "
Clearly, I'm in the wrong business! But, seriously, you'll have to provide some evidence to back up your unbelievable statement before anyone will believe it. For example, a financial statement from the NY Phil organization.
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We are inclusive and diverse, but dissent will not be tolerated.
I apologize that the number was completely far fetched-just checked it out
Was in the NYT during covid when the AFT union wanted continuous pay ---will try to find it while the NYP wanted to cut staff; they did not and the the teamsters got paid.
Best bargain in NYC: Metropolitan Opera tickets for $50. Yup. 50 bucks. They are up high, and you cannot see everything from some of them, but if you want to try opera and don't want to spend a few hundred, this is the way. You can buy the tickets on line.
Best to buy in advance.
And the best bar in NYC, PJ Clarkes, is across the street.
And no, you do not have to dress up. Sweater and jeans works fine.
standing seats?
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Sitting seats.
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While we are on the subject of cost, the Philadelphia Orchestra performs at Marion Anderson Hall. Great orchestra, really comfortable hall, Yannick is the music director and frequent conductor. Excellent pre-concert talks.
Best seats are around $160. Worth the drive from Northern NJ. And a stay over in a nice hotel is pretty inexpensive by NYC standards.
he has not come around to Chicago yet but I am going to see him TONIGHT in Rotterdam with Rotterdam Philharmonic conducting Bruckner 3 ! ( and Strauss Four last songs )
A good seat here at De Doelen ( excellent acoustic to boot ) was 67 Euro!
Edits: 03/21/25
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