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In Reply to: RE: Saw them twice at Shoreline Amphitheatre posted by AbeCollins on January 04, 2025 at 08:57:28
Only saw them once and it was likely the shortest set they ever played.
Have a deep appreciation for what they were and what they accomplished
but that appreciation (nee respect) always is stronger if I don't have to hear
them.
BTW, Eddie Palmieri and band opened this show.
Saw him countless times thereafter.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure
Wow, an epic show for sure, look at that lineup. I didn't see that many i would call epic, other than Hans Zimmer's and getting "picked up" mixing a show once and that one maybe strange is better word than epic..
I did see the Dead, epic in a weird way. In the way old days, on what they called underground radio, i heard a song called "cream puff war" and i got the album at the record store. I was a little bummed, that was the only song like that but a lot of albums were like that, one or two really good songs.
Anyway later in the late 80's the company i worked for was showing a Servodrive subwoofer at AES in NY.
This my first time to NY and presenting anything at AES etc, then our salesman arranged to go to the Dead show at the old MSG and talk to the sound guy about subs for Phil to play bass through.
So we were stage left with Phil's sound guy talking for a while and when they were playing mid song, we walked out in front of Phil with a sound level meter and took measurements (where we were at about 10 feet in front of Phil's rig "fast" peaks about 120-130dB depending and "slow" peaks around 105-115).
We were on stage standing there for maybe 5 min, seemed like an eternity but the strange part was the stage lights are so bright, you couldn't see more than a few people in the audience. You could sure hear them through.
We watched the rest of the show back at stage left. There i saw something that gave me the willies to top the weird evening off. There was a bundle of cables about a foot in diameter coming down from the flown speakers. At one point it was clear that the speakers and floor were moving / oscillating slowly in opposite directions and this was clear from the way the cable bundle end rose and fell as it met the floor.
I would guess this was 10 inches, maybe a foot of motion and like i said this gave me "an unsettled feeling" (is either ceiling or floor safe to be moving that much?). I think that is not the building they have now but am not sure, have not been back haha.
Overall an evening i will never forget and occasionally i will put on some old Dead.
Tom Danley
Danley Sound Labs
I saw Heart in a small College indoor stadium that held basketball games. the seats were those pull out bleachers. During Barracuda and Crazy on You the whole bleachers were vibrating and sliding around on the floor a little. Quite an experience.
Gsquared
to be rather spectacular, especially Lesh & Garcia and their various geetars.
They were NOT afraid to experiment!
The Wall of Sound was a marvel too though I never experienced it in person.
Dead sound and equipment folk were certainly devoted and it took a village to keep all that going.
No doubt all of them were used to the floor moving, being from the Bay Area one adjusts to it after a while.
I swear you could see the stage at Winterland in motion to the music some shows.
Yeah, this is really generic sounding and Post Pigpen they really expanded more into the Dead
Zone with the occasional great song.
American Beauty is a good LP and Robert Hunter was a godsend to them.
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"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I was never a Deadhead but I still enjoy hearing them occasionally in my listening setup.
Those 1970's bands in your post are all in my music library as I consider myself to be a "70's child" ;-)
Was a LOT of fun!
Great era for shows here when Bill Graham was alive.
You can probably stream any of that you want to sample, the second
pic is the CD box set included because of different billing from the
original poster.
Saw everyone on that bill more than once over the years.
EXCEPT the Dead!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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