 
|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
|
|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
71.32.241.28
In Reply to: RE: REVIEW: Audio Research, Inc. Reference 3 Preamplifier (Tube) posted by rhyno on July 15, 2012 at 07:47:47
Vinyl is clearly superior? To what? 78 rpm shellac records?
Vinyl is fine if you like:
a medium that degrades every time it is played
the rice krispies effects inherent therein
a carrier that easily warps and is subject to skipping.
Vinyl is fine if you like spending money on:
record cleaning machines, fluids, brushes, static killing devices,
alignment tools and devices, stylus force gauges, replacement belts,
record sleeves (inner and outer), and replacement styli.
But maybe the best thing about vinyl is that, if you don't like the
sound your rig produces, well, a new phono preamp or cartridge can
change the sound substantially!
And you can spend more for a new tonearm or cartridge than you can on
a BMW 3-series car!
Yes, vinyl is clearly superior. A clearly superior method of extracting
funds from believers.
But I do like that AR preamp, though.
Well said.
Just saying. Why get your panties all in a bunch over it?
You do not need to BUY the damn thing!
(I almost bought one for myself two years ago. it was a tossup between the Ref 3 and a Bryston. Only because the Ref 3 i wanted fell through (local) did i just jump forthe Brysston.
I STILL wonder if i should have gone for a REF 3)
Vinyl snobs like to think that their prefered medium is clearly superior
to others. Well, it isn't. It's just different, and it's a lot more
fiddly (and expensive) than digital. I try not to let these people
get their opinion across unchallenged.
And, if you had read to the end of my post, you would have seen that I
said I like the preamp. Bit expensive, though.
So what we ALL know folks who think either vinyl is gods gift or that it is a PITA. So what?
Getting into the guys face over it when it is just a side comment really is not nice.
Just like dolts who rush into any discussion about cable to proclaim anyone who thinks cable can sound different are nuts.. They are just being boorish.
So, next time you read some guy loving WHATEVER, give use all a break, and let it slide.
Just like my telling you off is boorish too. But SOMEBODY needed to say it.It is like some dude saying his wife is the most beautiful woman.. And YOU rush up and tell to his face she is ugly as hell.. (just because YOU think he needs to know the truth?)
Edits: 07/16/12
I think it was more in the nature of a snide comment than a side comment.
This shows your lack of intelligence.
> > This shows your lack of intelligence.
Actually, most of what he said is true, but it just doesn't bother some people.
Records do wear with each play (but it is a slow process with good equipment and proper care when playing).
Records do have a S/N ratio that is considerably worse than digital and are subject to clicks and pops (but the S/N ratio seems adequate for many listeners and cleaning can often help with clicks & pops).
Records do need care and attention to detail that requires a lot more attention than digital (but that doesn't bother a lot of users and some even enjoy the ritual).
Records can warp -- or even come that way (but with care in storage & use, the problem doesn't seem to bother the avid users).
As for the needed accessories, sure there are a lot of them, (but CDs have certainly had their share of extra gadgets show up on the market over the years).
And, sound differences between phono components do tend to be more dramatic. (Part of that is due to the mechanical motion to electrical signal conversion required, part due to the 40 dB swing of the RIAA curve and signal boost needed, but then vinyl adherents enjoy their search for what best suits their taste.)
In short, the issue doesn't lie with the "facts" but rather differing interpretations of them. Each side wastes a lot of time trying to debate opinions -- that's always a lost cause. ;-)
.
I love my vintage Audio Research SP8. It was the last Audio Research preamp that sounded sweet in the mids. Slow? Boomy bass? Limited dynamics? From the SP10 on, all Audio Research preamps have had the best bass, the most explosive dynamics, and the most extended high frequencies of any tube preamp. I agree, the "reviewer" either made the entire thing up, OR he is deaf!!!
Post a Followup:
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors:
Top of Page ]
[ Contact Us ]
[ Support/Wish List ]
[ Copyright © 2025, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
