Why is everyone so hell-bent on complicating this topic .,.. - Dave Pogue

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Topic - Rationalising polarity terminology- how about â€œNaturalâ€, â€œInvertedâ€, â€œMixedâ€ and â€œAlternatingâ€ ? - Bambi B 09:22:11 01/22/07 (68)

How about "EAR polarity" - Presto 17:49:52 01/23/07 (0)

Too high tech for me....how about just hit play and listen - Dynaudio_Rules 07:25:26 01/23/07 (7)

Why participate in an audio forum? Just... be happy! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:53:50 01/23/07 (0)

Would that it were possible to forget to be critical ! - Bambi B 08:54:47 01/23/07 (5)

Thanks Again Bambi...surely there is a way in digital media... - Dynaudio_Rules 11:01:06 01/23/07 (1)

At last! Reality has been broached. - clarkjohnsen 15:21:35 01/23/07 (0)

NO NO NO! You can't have read (or anyway absorbed) what I've been trying to tell you. - clarkjohnsen 09:46:21 01/23/07 (2)

YES YES YES! I've read and considered everything - Bambi B 10:57:09 01/23/07 (1)

Then how could you say I find most things "inverted"? - clarkjohnsen 15:18:47 01/23/07 (0)

How about "Normal" and "Reverse" polarity? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:20:45 01/23/07 (0)

Howzabout Puritan terminology: "Dirty", "Filthy", "Depraved", and "Perverted"? - TAFKA Steve 14:58:24 01/22/07 (2)

Polarity switches can have only one true set of labels: "One Way" and "The Other Way". - clarkjohnsen 17:19:59 01/22/07 (1)

...and when polarities are mixed, *both* are 'wrong'! (nt) - Presto 10:16:20 01/23/07 (0)

Why not simply 0 and 180? - Dave Pogue 14:58:03 01/22/07 (16)

Polarity can be any degree... electronics can and do rotate signals by frequency in ref to other freq. ALL THE TIME!! nt - Elizabeth 08:16:57 01/23/07 (4)

Incorrect.... - Todd Krieger 00:11:59 01/24/07 (0)

If this is truly the case, - Dave Pogue 09:30:24 01/23/07 (0)

Begging your pardon, but that's *phase* you're talking about. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:27:50 01/23/07 (1)

I second that (nt) - Presto 15:44:44 01/23/07 (0)

Because..... - Todd Krieger 22:06:01 01/22/07 (9)

Re: Because..... - morricab 05:33:00 01/23/07 (1)

Re: Because..... - Todd Krieger 23:43:30 01/23/07 (0)

Why is everyone so hell-bent on complicating this topic .,.. - Dave Pogue 04:15:35 01/23/07 (6)

It Really Isn't Complicated..... - Todd Krieger 23:10:22 01/23/07 (1)

"Polarity is like a battery, either one way or the other." - Dave Pogue 04:22:12 01/24/07 (0)

...sum/net directionality sensitivity to polarity - PeAK 19:30:18 01/23/07 (0)

There is an acceptable solution. - Presto 12:13:01 01/23/07 (2)

So there ISN'T an acceptable solution ... - Dave Pogue 12:19:32 01/23/07 (1)

Yes - that title did not serve my post well... - Presto 16:07:31 01/23/07 (0)

Both suggestions are "too simple"! :-) (nt) - Garth 19:56:50 01/22/07 (0)

We're Losing the Language and the Context...... - Todd Krieger 12:51:00 01/22/07 (18)

"On recordings... there is a general standard [for] an outward movement by the speaker diaphragm." There is?! - clarkjohnsen 17:16:24 01/22/07 (16)

Re: "On recordings... there is a general standard [for] an outward movement by the speaker diaphragm." There is?! - Todd Krieger 22:59:28 01/22/07 (3)

"Otherwise the recordings would be balanced 50-50." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 23:49:10 01/22/07 (2)

Re: "Otherwise the recordings would be balanced 50-50." LOL! - Todd Krieger 22:57:49 01/23/07 (1)

"I'd also presume they're likely 50-50 amongst individual microphones and studio components." You may so presume... - clarkjohnsen 23:53:47 01/23/07 (0)

Obviously, - unclestu52 21:24:32 01/22/07 (11)

Re: Obviously, - David Aiken 21:55:33 01/22/07 (10)

Exactly. But the point seems to need making over and over. Not only that... - clarkjohnsen 23:52:46 01/22/07 (9)

Re: Exactly. But the point seems to need making over and over. Not only that... - unclestu52 10:55:02 01/23/07 (8)

I'm not sure standardisation is desirable in one respectâ€¦ - David Aiken 15:33:05 01/23/07 (7)

You said one thing that caught my eye... - Presto 15:54:34 01/23/07 (6)

Re: You said one thing that caught my eye... - David Aiken 23:00:29 01/23/07 (1)

"A tweak that requires attention on a disc to disc basis..." - clarkjohnsen 00:03:10 01/24/07 (0)

Re: You said one thing that caught my eye... - unclestu52 20:36:16 01/23/07 (3)

Well - inaudibility of polarity is not always for a lack of hearing acuity... - Presto 21:19:04 01/23/07 (2)

Re: Well - inaudibility of polarity is not always for a lack of hearing acuity... - unclestu52 10:40:36 01/24/07 (1)

Interesting. - Presto 12:53:33 01/24/07 (0)

I agree with your charactertisations, but I think there's reason to further refine the terms - Bambi B 15:06:54 01/22/07 (0)

The writer seems not to have absorbed my earlier reply... - clarkjohnsen 11:41:14 01/22/07 (8)

I absorbed it, but here are some reasons I'm thinking along different lines - Bambi B 14:23:35 01/22/07 (7)

Clark Johnsen's confusion - georgelouis 17:20:26 01/23/07 (5)

Re: Clark Johnsen's confusion - georgelouis 18:30:08 01/23/07 (4)

Re: Clark Johnsen's confusion - Todd Krieger 22:03:20 01/24/07 (0)

You keep making claims and refuse to substantiate them... Why should we believe anything you say? - Ted Smith 19:30:30 01/23/07 (2)

Re: You keep making claims and refuse to substantiate them... Why should we believe anything you say? - georgelouis 20:09:54 01/23/07 (1)

List specific model numbers or your claims are non-verifiable... Stereophile's measurements on the other hand... - Ted Smith 20:47:06 01/23/07 (0)

It beats me, why something so elementary as polarity ("in" or "out")... - clarkjohnsen 17:09:10 01/22/07 (0)

I disagree - Presto 11:28:44 01/22/07 (2)

I like the way you disagree, perhaps we can disagree some more? - Bambi B 14:51:36 01/22/07 (1)

I would say I couldn't disagree more but I'd be lying? :o) read on... - Presto 18:34:15 01/22/07 (0)

Where does that leave "non-inverting"? - Garth 09:33:52 01/22/07 (6)

It is certainly possible to have an audio component or entire system operating in "correct" or "natural" polarity - Bambi B 10:47:35 01/22/07 (5)

"Of course, the source CD or LP could be 'inverted'." With respect to WHAT? - clarkjohnsen 11:57:37 01/22/07 (2)

Re: "Of course, the source CD or LP could be 'inverted'." With respect to WHAT? - georgelouis 15:13:43 01/24/07 (0)

Wouldn't you want a specimen of each machine Clark? - Presto 12:05:50 01/22/07 (0)

If we're going to be picky about terminology... - Presto 11:40:02 01/22/07 (0)

An audio component, like a preamp for example, doesn't .... - Garth 11:08:30 01/22/07 (0)

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Why is everyone so hell-bent on complicating this topic .,.. - Dave Pogue 04:15:35 01/23/07 (6)

It Really Isn't Complicated..... - Todd Krieger 23:10:22 01/23/07 (1)

"Polarity is like a battery, either one way or the other." - Dave Pogue 04:22:12 01/24/07 (0)

...sum/net directionality sensitivity to polarity - PeAK 19:30:18 01/23/07 (0)

There is an acceptable solution. - Presto 12:13:01 01/23/07 (2)

So there ISN'T an acceptable solution ... - Dave Pogue 12:19:32 01/23/07 (1)

Yes - that title did not serve my post well... - Presto 16:07:31 01/23/07 (0)