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John Sinclair-- Chairman of the White Panther Party, manager of the MC Five, subject of a John Lennon song, and all around 60's troublemaker--in an interview to promote the re-release of his book "Guitar Army" was asked how the book held up after 30 some years. John said that while there was some good stuff in it, he admitted the premise (youth would/could be the revolutionary protagonists and that rock'n'roll would change the world) was crap. He was asked when he came to that realization, and he replied "Around the time the Eagles first hit."
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Open up your mind, in pours the trash. - Meat Puppets, 1987
Joe Walsh is an outstanding guitar player and their harmonies are excellent.
...when he was on a south Florida tour and he came into Mike's Electronics after I had left.
Later Gator,
Dave
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I sailed on a few ships old enough they still carried a radio operator. I was told listening to all the dots and dashes made them all kind of nutty, bu it sure was a sweet job. while they were responsible for the working order of the gear, they basically only worked fifteen minutes twice a day.
I really like the guitar duet with Walsh and Felder in the musical interlude.
Love his solo and James Gang stuff.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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Open up your mind, in pours the trash. - Meat Puppets, 1987
Later Gator,
Dave
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But I enjoy some of their songs. "New Kid In Town" was always my favorite.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
desperados.
Stoopid and lacking ethics, too.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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That's where that Southern Belle Bobby Gentry grew up. There is or was certain intellectual presence in that "scene" that is very off-putting to me.
not sure if I would want to hang with anyone who isn't a fan of intellect, no matter how it is expressed , but we do share a common interest , and I'm not stuck up about people different than myself. .
Bobby Gentry grew up in the palms springs area, in case you would care to be more factually correct
My cousin met and dated her for a while when he built a large African big game trophy room for her father, stuffed animals, glass cases, the whole bit. My cousin originally got stuck out in the desert as a reservist at twenty none palms army base, and then later found construction opportunities because few guys wanted to work in that heat. he was also kind of a wild child around town (Whittier) with a very fast car, so that also might have made the desert more attractive
I was over at my uncles house once when they were both there, and Ms gentry was off in the other room next to the piano with my aunt, when I asked Kenny, my cousin about her. He wasn't as impressed with her as I was, saying she always spent more time with his mom and playing the piano than with him. I was just a kid so didn't intrude with adults activities, but still remember her unusually tall beehive hairstyle.
Well this is a thread about the Eagles so let's put it this way - this is the same kind of industry created drool that our generation holds so dear while we mock the new music of today. Bobby Gentry, the Eagles, and dozens of other bands were created to reach a much smaller segment of America than are the big stars of today. At least Led Zeppelin took the music and remanufactured it and put it in arenas for the masses to hear, they were far less imposters than many of our pop favorites from the 60s and 70s. It's really funny I look back at 60s/70s music video with my 2022 eyes and think you have got to be kidding me. To me it's almost unbelievable the fog we live in - the Ode To Billy Joe or some Carpenters song make laugh that we actually bought into that, sadly to me it's weird that so many see that shit as something real.The RS intellectualism comment comes as a side issue in the Eagles thread but is somewhat related. And the truth is the music industry is not interested in that kind artistic intellect, artiness or cuteness, when it comes to pop/rock music and in fact most people aren't either. I'm not blaming RS for devolving quality of mainstream music but surely they were far out of touch by the early 70s. I remember this clear as day - people who read Rolling Stone are and will always be much cooler and much more all knowing than people who don't read it. Kind of like those who used to read and love The Absolute Sound. I should give the Rolling Stone a current read - I'm betting they, like TAS, are long off that high horse.
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and had their music snobbery focused on different scenes as well as areas of LA.
Never strayed far from The Beatles and The Stones, really.
For me, the mag started going downhill with that move.
The Manhattanization of SF has always involved more than tall buildings.
The LA rock/folk scene was more than just the Laurel Canyon thing and
the "hipness" associated with it. It was a multiverse of musics.
Mags and writers made the many scenes there (and really, anywhere) more
or less "hip" depending of what THEY dug, and that POV just spread.
Still a LOT of regional flavor involved in the late 60's/mid 70's pre punk with
that "intellectual" approach/spin. I figure drug consumption was a big factor.
Not to mention RECORD COMPANY expense accounts (including advertising
of course).
Seemed to morph to straight big business by the early 80's.
In SF, the Dead and the Airplane were promoted as hip by RS, CCR and Santana
really weren't, LA had The Doors and which way Henley liked face TP in the holder
and about 555 bands to pick and choose from.
Whatever... LOTS of great music was created despite all the amputations, amongst
the aspirations and despite the desperations.
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It's A Beautiful Day, Joy Of Cooking, Cold Blood, seems there was a slew of them and they are really not talked about much any more. Muse, you lived there at the time, what are your favorites?
Any time we went to a restaurant or bar that was playing Classic Rawk as background, we'd pick a number from 1 to 10, and that would be our over/under for how many songs until "Hotel California" came over the sound system.
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I'd list some here but I don't want to offend anyone. Besides, my taste in music leaves a lot to be desired.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
I think it was about 5 years ago I finally bought Mothership and more lately, Hell Freezes Over. Not because I ever want to hear Hotel or Stairway again but rather that I thought they belong in the collection of an aging Boomer.
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yet seem to know way too many of their songs by heart.
I too hate the fucking Eagles but the SOB's just DON'T abide!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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I have lost interest in the Eagles beyond their debut album and Fleetwood Mac for all their post blues output. I find it boring.
-Wendell
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Lighten up while you still can.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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Later Gator,
Dave
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...there...that should make it all better.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Great song, it's on Laid Back.
From the terrific--and almost completely forgotten--album Valley Hi .
Great cover of "Seven Bridges Road" also.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
These Days:
"Please don't confront me with my failures, cause I have not forgotten them".
Great ending line.
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+1, My architecture firm designed a major NBA/NHL arena which I worked on. The Eagles were the first event. I did not even go.
Ciao,
"One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it. Three chords and you're into jazz." - Lou Reed
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never even a need for a greatest hits collection.
Most of the bands I have in mind have PLENTY of GH collections too.
And I stopped listening to radio on any regular basis at least 30 years ago.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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