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In Reply to: RE: I like "Tusk" better than "Rumours." posted by Dave B on October 09, 2018 at 09:12:56
Yeah, private sector often can, and many times do pay more than public sector in some areas, but you are more vulnerable to the shifting job market though public sector is not immune either, just a bit more so.
At any rate, I'm sure you read that MM has to shell out millions in insurance to bring to their studios, the actual BN tapes from the vaults to then strike their copy to make an all analog chain reissue of classic Blue Notes and of course, new jazz works as well.
I should keep an eye out no matter what on my local record store, High Voltage that sells both new and used albums as they've had a nice, blue label/white note UA pressing of Whistle Stop in the racks for $40 and it's been there since some point in the spring I believe as they do sometimes have a used record sale, typically at 20% off or some such, and if one happens, and the LP there, I'll snag it as the Liberty or UA Blue Notes are worth picking up as they are quite affordable but sound almost as good as the originals (1956-1966, pressed at Plastylite versions that commend a very, very dear sum, especially if stamped Van Gelder, as most are I think).
Anyway, The next big thing is to upgrade my modest Kenwood for something better as it's the one main bottleneck in the entire system, and as it is, it's not bad at all, does very well, but I attribute that more to the Grado Prestige Green 1 and the Muffsy and the NAD receiver and ADS speakers downstream of the vinyl rig primarily.
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I have never objected to paying for true quality. Old motto: Buy it once and be done with it. ;-) Doesn't surprise me that the insurance is very high on irreplaceable master tapes.
I have 2 used record stores near me... I've found some very good stuff in there. Usually, priced very fairly too.
The thing I've found out, is that the point of diminishing return on TT's, arms, cart's and phono pre's, is really high. Not the same as amplification or cd players. You might be better off to buy some used analog gear and purchase higher tier items at lower pricing, than buying new, lesser performing pieces.
I'm fortunate that I have 5 I think used record stores not far from my house. The closest two are about 11 blocks or so from my house and I agree, budget willing, pay for quality goods like turntables. I inherited the Kenwood from my late parents and they bought it new in 1985 so already it has a leg up on the current budget tables now on offer. It helps that I have it kitted out with the Grado prestige Green 1 I bought in the spring and it's connected to a decent phono preamp so it punches way beyond it's price point at the moment but know I can do way better.
I agree on buying used but I have always loved the philosophy of Rega tables once I heard of them around 2000 or so (and heard one too at the time and liked it). At that time, the Planar 3 had just had a major revision - hence the P3 2000, but I'd love to find a second hand P3 24V 2007 iteration or maybe the better P5 or P7, or RP6 if I can find one I can swing over the Planar 3, which has always been a well regarded model in the lineup and it's considered the comopany's bread and butter/workhorse model.
Eventually... Gotta get a workin' first though! :-)
Seems like a Rega P6 with the included Ania MC cart offered, would be a serious upgrade for you. Never owned a Rega but I know they are popular.
With the new MC cart, you'd have to upgrade the Muffsy to get more gain.
My cart is a Shelter 9000, which has 0.6mV output and I run 66dB of gain and a 100ohm load in my Pass Labs XP-15 phono stage. The XP-15 can go to 76dB of gain, if needed. The cool thing is, it can do this with zero change to the noise floor. That Ania MC cart is 0.35mV output, so would need a bit more gain possibly.
Yes, but the outgoing RP8 is over 3 grand with cart though and this new Planar 8 is heavily based on the Naiad concept table from a few short years back so who knows what the prices will be on these or how much more will they go up over the outgoing model - hence even looking at a second hand Rega to enable the upgrade sooner and enjoy.
I know not everyone will love the Rega sound but they do have quite a following and it seems they hold up for the very long haul.
Anyway, even if I wanted to go with a MC cartridge, even if low output, I can order the Muffsy head amp for the Muffsy and be done with, but there again, if the Ania is so low in output can the head unit work with it?
It'll be interesting to see just how good this new model is as I hear the Planar 6, introduced last year is scarely good in and of itself and it has I believe the improved bearing over the P3, has the Olifin based foam plinth, but the same RB330 arm as the Planar 3, has a thicker glass platter, all aluminum sub platter but the same motor and anti vibration circuit of the P3 and of course gets the new Neo Power supply as standard, where as the P3 gets it as an option.
It's one of those designs that when I first heard about them, nearly 20 years ago, I fell in love with its KISS principal of design and how they did incrimental improvements to refine the already sound design principal that's been in use since the early 70's so the more I read, the more I hear how good the improvements have been over time, the more I liked.
Anyway, gotta get working and get bills and some debt paid down first though.
In a 2nd, separate system I put together last winter, I picked up a Pro-Ject Carbon Debut DC tt. I upgraded it with the better platter, a Clamp-it and tossed the Ortofon 2M Red out and got a 2M Bronze instead. Yep! a $450.00 cartridge, on a $400.00 table. Hehehe..!!
For a phono stage, I got the Pro-Ject Tube Box DS2 ($700.00). This system uses my spare 20 yr old Aragon 18K MkII preamp and then I built a Bottlehead Stereomour II 2A3 SET amplifier.
Lastly, I built a pair of high efficiency speakers, using a pair of excellent speaker cabinets I had. Did the Thiel-Small calcs, got the ports correct and using superb point source drivers in each cabinet. Bought a pair of 10" subs and cross them over at 75Hz.
This little flea powered system is a ton of fun! It sounds reasonably good for what it is. I even brought the Carbon Debut up to the main system and listened to it with much higher end gear and it did ok. It does not have near the detail, musicality or bottom end as my high end analog stuff but it did ok. The high end system has a relaxed, effortless liquidity that is hard to describe.
Anyway, a long way of saying again, that there is a really high point of diminishing return in analog playback.
Yeah, I figured just for the table alone, gotta get up around 5K-10K range to begin to hit those diminishing returns, and that's just the table, let alone the cartridge and phono stage but most can get around 90-95% in the 1K-4K or so range with very good cartridge and phono stage.
So yes, vinyl in and of itself is not cheap if you want to play in the big leagues, but it does not have to be if you are willing to drop down to the 85-95% range and be merrily content and can listen to music for long periods if you wish.
Sent you a pm to your email.
Unfortunately, your PM never arrived. :-)
But you got the email. ;-)
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