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For those who can't even handle New Sensor making Mullard, Tung Sol and Genalex, don't look.
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I tried to post a review of the Tele 6922's but it did not upload. HMMMMmmm...anyway bought a pair of EC88 (6922's) last week and tried them for three days and they were wonderful. Better then my sylvania 6922's. Better in my SAS preamp than any tube I have tried. And then ....tube failure last night. I will keep you informed as to what happens with the Black Diamond 6922;s
The use of the great names of the past by current manufacturers is gross. Enough already.
nt
Perdue chicken can be good. For the most part, JJ's recent tube production is CRAP.
Eli D.
I use two sets of the E34L blue glass and used to have a 5AR4 and none of them have been anything less than delightful. I am aware of the problems however.
I also have a blown Genelex KT88 and these seem to be the darlings of the board. But I realize that I am a sample of but one.
Make that a sample of two. I have far more problems with the Gold Lion tubes than any other brand other than Psvane.
The bad rap on JJ tubes comes from a few people who buy their tubes from one reputable dealer who is not a JJ dealer.
I purchased over $5000.00 worth of tubes last year, not including replacements by manufacturers, and the least troublesome were JJ.
As for the Telefunkens, don't knock them until you've tried them. There isn't one person posting here who has actually used them (including me)
Dan Santoni
You correct about not having heard them. I look forward to real world data and experience on their new boutique line. But JJ has a lot of work to win me over.
I've gotten some that weren't good from Eurotube. Can't get much more authorized than that.
I think there was a period of time when Eurotube was not doing proper testing at the factory. I have had no issues with the recent JJ power tubes I have used and depending on the circuit they can sound quite good.
I did not mean to disparage the quality of the tubes, but I find the use of the great names of the past on modern Eastern Block tubes to be deceitful and just plain crappy.
I own, and use, many of the Genelex reissues, the use of the name just makes me cringe. My problem, I know.
JJ definitely knows how to make good tubes. Older production runs were fine. I suspect your blue glass E34Ls are of an older "vintage". JJ's E34L, when made with care, is superb. For quite some time, JJ's E88CC was THE value in 6DJ8 family variants.
Unfortunately, the will to manufacture a quality product has be absent, over the last few years. ;> ( JJ's Octal based tubes became no better than inconsistent. The E88CC became unreliable. Numerous other examples have been noted by AA "inmates".
Take the money and run seems to be JJ's current operating theme. A truly sad situation.
Eli D.
....are far superior to todays offerings. The Tesla tubes that I have are superior to the JJ, Ei used to make some great tubes, ditto Tungsram. SED as well had excellent, reliable tubes, which it seems are now but a memory, though reports on the current KT120 are very good. And it was not too long ago that Cetron made a marvelous, affordable, 300B right here in the US of A.
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The find the new PSVANE Treasure stuff is superior to all but the very best tubes of long ago. I always found the Cetron the be the worst sounding 300B I have ever owned. Maybe we have very different ears or you haven't heard the best of the new production stuff.
Aren't transistors alien technology?
If it is a 'Treasure', it's a Shuguang.
Which do you prefer?
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Tin-eared audiofool, large-scale-Classical music lover, and damned-amateur fotografer.
William Bruce Cameron: "...not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
Thank you for the affirmation.
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When JJ first came out with their 12AX7, it looked to be a copy of the infamous Tele ECC803s which resembles a 6dj8 internally (frame grid construction). I remember asking at the CES booth they had if indeed it was, but no one spoke English and I got no real reply.
imho,those JJ frame grid "12Ax7"s sound great and are a huge bargain that not too many know about. anyone experimenting with 12AX7 rolling, check those out.
-andre d
If only they could build them like that.
I would like to think New Sensor and Shug would light a fire under JJ's butts at some point. Hopefully they aren't just pretty boxes, but I'm not holding my breath.
...or you'll be sitting in the lower third room for meetings.
"I can't compete with the dead". (Buck W. 2010)
You mean you would let me in the house ? The horror.
tubes rebranded as TFKs was quite normal! Ei small tubes were often labelled as TFKs and i own a flock TFK ECC801s labelled twin triodes which truly are GE 6201!Nunki
The times, they are changing...
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