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I have been accused of being bisaed against Creative.
I thought they redeemed themselves with the 0404 which I thought would output spdif to 96k in the digital domain directly. The specs clearly say so.
To my surprise, the only way one can do so is to loop back from the dac to the adc, with some explanation about the unit not being compatible with windows drivers.
Whilst the unit sounds ok as dac from hirez sources, the lack of honesty in the specs for spdif is apalling and limits functionality for which I bought the thing.
This is another sad story for PC audio hardware and software.
Follow Ups:
Fred,
this is definitely incorrect. You need a player with ASIO plugin to output ANY spdif. Yet, once that requirement is met you can output any spdif signal between 44.1k and 96k. I can span all the relevant range using the upsampling (secret rabbit code) in foobar. The sync freq. in the EMU panel changes exactly as the source frequency.
I am pretty sure that Gordon can confirm this.
Best
Giulio
This is what the EMU instructions say!!I do not get spdif output with Foobar ASIO using sound card with ASIO support.
ONLY the sync output
Fred,
A screen shot of your foobar ASIO panel would help us to help you.
If I read this right, you are not getting Foobar to work with ASIO and an ASIO card??
Foobar does work with asio supporting cards. IN fact I know that my setup HAS to be using ASIO from Foobar.
Well,
I use it only as a usb to spdif convertor into my Behringer digital xover. I would not be listening to much music if what you said were correct. Foobar 0.9.4 loses the ASIO settings for the EMU each time you switch off the PC (bummer). Each time in your ASIO preferences you need to remove the EMU driver, add it again and map the left and right channels to SPDIF. Then select the EMU ASIO driver under ASIO.
In foobar 0.8.3 it is much easier you just need to shift channels by 2 (spdif is mapped to channels 3 and 4) and it does not lose the settings when you switch off the PC. Here are the instruction for 0.8.3
http://www.aqvox.de/Asio-USB-Audio-installation-e.htm
Look only at the foobar part. Select EMU ASIO USB (rather than Asioforall) under device (remember to shift channels by 2) and 32 bit under playback.
Support at Creative may be clueless, that their engineers are all right.
The same applies to winamp and MediaMonkey that use the same (otachan) asio plugin as foobar 0.8.3. The plugin for foobar 0.9.4 is different and I have not found any picture to illustrate the various steps, though google returned a verbal explanation for me when I was grappling with the issue some weeks ago (remember me checking spdif output level with a multimeter ;-> ?).
Please, we are trying to help but ask kindly rather than shouting unsubstantiated claims...
Best
Giulio
Thanks, you are right. To get spdif, one has to shift channel by 2 in Foobar.
What does this actually do?
I was also correct in qouting the FAQ note about spdif on the EMU website.
My understanding is that the EMU can route 4 different channels (two to the analog out and two to SPDIF).
Channels 1 and 2 are analog output and right and left audio channels are mapped to them by default.
Channels 3 and 4 are SPDIF output and by default nothing is mapped to them. Shifting by 2 means that you map right and left to 3 and 4 respectively.
In foobar 0.9.4 you have more flexibility and could also map any multichannel output (e.g. center channel) to any of the 4 (2 analog and 2 SPDIF) output channels of the EMU.
Best
Giulio
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