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No... this is not about the Pinarello I bought two weeks ago... that one is already old. Dome some work to it - replaced the cassette and bought and glued (using tape) new tubular tires... looking and working very, very good!However... the guy who sold it to me had something else - it was a nice Dogma F10 frame with most of the components on it. Looked great, but the price he was asking was in line with the current market ones, which, put simply, meant too expensive for me.
He has been trying to sell it, but clearly Local Pickup Only put some limits on his ability to move it. So he kept dropping the price in emails to me, and at some point he made me an offer I simply could not refuse... so on my way to NYC I was again...
In cases like this I always recall the famous Stone Soup (Axe Soup) story...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Soup
Did I need another project? Not really... but it was so drop dead gorgeous that I simply had to have it.
As far as the frame was concerned it was missing the front derailleur, some cables and the tape.
It also needed wheels and cassette... and a frame like that deserves good wheels.
It turned out it was impossible to find the Campy Super Record 11 speed front derailleur anywhere in the world. So for now I ordered a nice used Record one from Europe. I can always swap it later if I find the Super part.
As far as the wheels I wanted carbon clinchers. I struggled a bit between 35mm and 50mm wheels. I finally decided to go with Campagnolo Bora One 35, as I liked its lightness and its lack of aerodynamic pretensions - at the speeds I ride these would not matter anyway.
So here it is my new bride... sorry, ride... not yet ready to be taken out, but looking super-sharp!
BTW - the frame is ready for electric shifters, it has the port for it.
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NT
This frame is almost legendary, and light - 850 grams or so.
With full internal cabling, but external at the stem/steerer tube.
Newer aero frames have ridiculous completely hidden internal cabling through the inside of the bars, stem and steerer tube into the frame. It makes changing a stem or moving shifters, or even adjusting stem height a 1/2 day pro mechanic job. A nightmare for the home bike mechanic. And they use proprietary stem spacers.
If I was ever to go carbon, would you sell me this one Victor? ;-)
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
Do you know, by any chance, if it will take the 28mm tires? I get conflicting reports.
I can't wait to have this bike built. The wheels should be here any day now. I am already toying with an idea of also getting a set of tubular wheels for it. There is something in the tubular's purity and simplicity that attracts me.
Cleaning the wheels of old glue took me about 40 minutes each, but I am sure I was too anal, as I tried to remove any trace of the glue.
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28mm tyres .....
I think you might be lucky.
Best try fitting the wheels from your other Pinarello (you bastard :-O ) and see how much room there is - between the chain stays behind the bottom bracket and the top of the brake calipers. And see how wide the brake calipers open up to take the tyre width. Bear in mind that newer tubular rims, and clincher rims will be wider than the older rims from your other bike.
This is the only downfall of slightly older frames these days - the newest road bike frames are now made for up to 32mms.
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
...I ordered 25mm.
With bike shops busy this time of the year it is probably going to be a month before I can ride that bike.
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all the best,
mrh
That seat looks very crotch-unfriendly.
LowIQ
Being a race type saddle, it's designed to accommodate pelvic bones on quite a forward lean. Not a sitting up looking around town saddle ;-)
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
The one on my other bike looks very similar, so I was concerned, but it turned out not bad at all. Actually, better, than my other older one.
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I'm glad this came back.
At the last I looked, I was AMAZED at what has happend to bike wheels. but at the very high end.
Last I saw, spoke Aero was it....but heavy and expensive.
The lightest wheels were aluminium and 24 or so Radial spokes. And on the fragile side, especially for heavier riders.
Now? I was surprised that carbon / Graphite is now avaialble., let alone at what cost. (a lot!)
spoke counts are way down.....and Victor says he has no durability problems at his weight. Spokes churn a lot of air. and go from still.....at the bottom to 2x bike forward speed, 180degrees later...
At this point, I think 90% of the workforce in Italy that once worked in custom frame shops, and I can think of 3 or 4, are now out of work.....Or doing vintage repairs on the side.
That Pinarello is a piece of Industrial Art of a high order. I'd like to see one in person.....
Too much is never enough
...I was simply struck by their weight - to say they are light is not saying much. At the same time they are very, very robust. At first I handled them carefully, you know, expecting a chip here and there... but soon I realized they were tough, so I became sure of myself scraping off the old glue.
BTW, there is a great video on Tube on how the carbon frames are made... it is the French Look brand, and the frames are fabricated in Tunisia.
I was shocked to know their frame has 405 carefully shaped pieces of carbon sheets all glued together.
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Trouble with carbon frames is that EACH ONE needs a mold. in the appropriate size.
Layup is a skilled profession and time / temp of 'bake' is critical to the end result.
At that time? KESTREL impressed me most, with attention to detail and workmanship which was THE standard to my brain cell...
Too much is never enough
I assume that this is far more bike than you need.
Had to settle for this, but who's complaining? :)
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Awesome.
Very nice bike.
Ready to take on Froomy!
Keep Your Hands Clean,
John K
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...and start riding like he does!
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-Rod
I know I would not last long in such riding. And even pros fall down, let alone the overweight old farts. :)
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WELCOME BACK!
Geez, Vic, that thing looks fast just sitting there!
I understand why you wanted it. Moving sculpture. Very, very nice.
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