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Need phono and DAC (prefer USB)
Streaming/bluetooth irrelevant
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Integrated with bass management, high pass, external processor loop, and pre in power outs.
For two channel I can't find fault.
Parasound New Classic 200 but $1195. But it does do a lot.
Spend more, get brand new, good equipment, a warranty, and 15 day return policy. Oh, and maybe remote control!!! At the price point, I thinks it is hard to beat the Schiit. Other than being a Schiit DAC owner, no association.
I'll have the Schiit Combo, please.
But for a modest investment into an audio system, I think the performance of their equipment is hard to beat (yeah, there is other new equipment out there that is good and worth mentioning). Unless you get a steal at a Garage Sale, Good Will, or gifted, just seems like a safe path to me. Value Meal, I like that analogy - maybe Schiit should use that and do a promo on combos. They're my recommendation to people that want a decent audio system but can't drop $5-10K or bother with vintage.
...just the choice wording in the original post. I couldn't help myself ;-)
But good for you instead of, well, loaded with enough cholesterol to damn the mighty Mississip.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
More on the order of cheap, filling, and designed to satisfy beginners, err, kids.
I can tell you haven't had one of their $12 Adult Happy Meals.
BTW, how's yer boy? On the mend I hope.
Now that he's Super-sized (continuing the metaphor) I couldn't get him into the carrier without carnage to see the Vet. I kept careful watch on him all that day; he drank water, he pee'd in the new improved litter box and by yesterday went from mopey back to his usual bad self.
I ordered some of that Wysong stuff on your rec and began slipping it into his food today.
He's Ruff, He's Tuff, He's King of the Condo:
Glad to hear.
Not sure who it was recco'd the Wysong, but weren't me. Might have been Musetap. My little guy has a prescription from his doc and he's getting Hills Science Diet c/d Urinary Care. Formulated to reduce chance of the little crystals forming that lead to blockages. So far it seems to do the trick.
To get what fstein needs (amp, phono, DAC) he'd have to spend $1700 to $1900 for a single integrated Schiit amp or a combination of Schiit separates. Any of the following setups would provide good, really good, sound from well-regarded components. Not the tube gear you're used to, but certainly not beginner, kiddie stereo.Schiit Ragnarok fully loaded $1699 USD
- Class A/B 60 Watts/channel
- Selectable gain w/ 128-step remote volume control
- MM only phono stage card
- DAC card.Schiit Ragnarok plus externals $1877 USD
- Ragnarok basic ($1499)
- Mani phono stage: MM & MC ($149)
- Modius DAC: ($229)Schiit separates $1676 USD
- Vidar power amp: Class A/B 100 watts/channel ($799) ($699)
- Freya S preamp: selectable gain w/ 128-step remote volume control ($599)
- Mani phono stage: MM & MC ($149)
- Modius DAC: ($229)Tom
PS: Full disclosure; I use a number of Schiit Audio components and have been listening to stereo systems for over 50 years.
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I received a notice from Schiit Audio that the price of their Vidar power amp has dropped from $799 back to $699 USD.They also have a version of the Freya preamp called the Freya Noval (Freya N), which ships with 6N1P tubes but can be used with a range of Noval tubes. Price is $799 ($699 + $100 for a set of matched 6N1P tubes)
Added: Not bad for $1498 USD. That'd be a nice, relatively compact setup.
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... they will do Class-D Amps and already have it in the works? They are for big bang for the buck, but seem to want to do things right. So surprised to see Atma-Sphere has done it already.
It wouldn't surprise me at all. They may be figuring out the benefits of adopting/modify an existing Class-D module vs the commitment to designing and building Class-D circuitry in-house.
I use a Class-D power amp myself and really enjoy the clean signal amplification and speaker control it provides. I don't hear the switching frequency noise that some people claim to hear, nor do I think it sounds "sterile". For me, it's simply a very transparent amplifier that drives my speakers with ease.
Tom
...Saga +, I'd be pretty happy with a complete Schiit system. If my Stax headphones ever croak, I'll probably go back to dynamics using a Schiit headphone amp.
Though I gotta say, my old Hafler amp ever buys the farm, I'd get a Crown XLS1502 before I'd buy the Vidar. Maggies love power.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Schiit does offer some B-Stock at discounted pricing. And one can upgrade components at a later date if desired.
I hope my posting has been helpful, not just Schiit! Any laughs out there?
But the two guys behind the business are anything but kids. They are highly respected in the industry.But with the Combo Meal concept in mind, why don't they offer several simple, elegant aluminum rack approach that complements their case designs to stack the items with say 4" and 6" right angle RCA/XLR connectors to minimize cables hanging out. Maybe a nice neat packaging approach. Always wondered why not.
Some people need a "Big Bang For The Buck", not a "Big Buck For The Bang".
And the OP was talking about being in the $1K range - which is very limiting. Ohhh Schiit.
Just a thought.
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Why not Rega amp. Classy.
Bill
I've been having good results with an Arcam SA10 in a second system.
Thinking Cambridge Audio CXA81
Onkyo used to have incredible value integrateds, with a sound way above their price range.
My department store Onkyo stereo receiver for $200 was far superior to my $400 NAD receiver. This was back around 1996.
$200 Onkyo stereo RX = robust, dynamic, transparent, great fluorescent display.
$400 NAD stereo RX = anemic, veiled, compressed, tiny dark dingy LCD display.
nt
One model in particular was highly regarded....let me look for a second?
A-9555 was a winner and well regarded.
Too much is never enough
This is a good one w/ 100wpc, phono, 32 bit ESS DAC w/ USB.
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/a-s801/specs.html#product-tabs
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After buying my Yamaha A-S1100 a few years back and being so pleased with it, I recommended lower models to a few folks, who have replied back positively.
I heard the A-S801 with new heritage series "Denton" from Wharfedale and was impressed. Such good sound can be had for short money these days.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
and I was not impressed with it. Well broken in, original new owner, and still disappointing. That's my take
It's all about synergy with your system. I've noticed different results w/ amps in my systems.
he noticed problems and so did I with a different 'system'
I think this checks the boxes.
I'm still of the belief that those are necessary because nothing is perfect ESPECIALLY THE SOURCES and I don't care what anybody else says because it's apparent in many recordings - even the ones made today.
Usually just a subtle touch here and there can make plenty of difference.
I'm putting this one on my Christmas wish list, thanks
It's hard to imagine being able to get so much for so little in today's market.
Opus 33 1/3 had the predecessor model, the 2150, for a while years back. He told me he really liked it and that the phono section in it punched well above its class.
It's no giant killer but tons of features and a solid performer at the price.
I had the Outlaw 2150 receiver for a while too. I used mine as an integrated amp and it was excellent. I recall that it had a nice full bodied sound to it with slight warmth and good dynamics. It wasn't a giant killer but I've heard worse in audiophile brands in that price class. I didn't try the Phono stage and only played with FM reception a couple times. The integrated amp section was excellent.It's a decent quality made-in-China product and the only thing I didn't care for was it's faux retro styling.
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Stereophile did a ReTest after manufacturing was moved and found no problems.
The RR2160 is more of the same, but perhaps a bit more power......
Too much is never enough
...Outlaw will sometimes put their products on sale around the holidays.
PS Audio Sprout may work.
Gsquared
I have on my hands an Onkyo integrated and I'm comparing it to a vintage (am I that old?) Classe integrated. It's not bad at all. I remember a lot of talk about Marantz integrateds being OK and a lot of those are for sale, too.
It does seem to be that the mass market is going wireless and for total convenience now (and I remember a recent post about this phenomena), so these are up for sale en masse now.
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