Great post. That's exactly how I see it (nt) - Dave Kingsland

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Topic - What's REALLY going on here? - tkheem 11:07:07 04/29/04 (162)

Only surpassed by Tosh 3950....LOL - bartc 09:23:39 04/30/04 (0)

To those who defend JPS saying all audio cable mfgs are simply relabeling stock - Caymus 08:39:29 04/30/04 (1)

Re: To those who defend JPS saying all audio cable mfgs are simply relabeling stock - Dan Banquer 11:56:37 04/30/04 (0)

Knowing what you now know, would you ever consider buying this cable? - driver8 07:35:53 04/30/04 (2)

Re: Knowing what you now know... - Jay 08:07:11 04/30/04 (1)

Re: Knowing what you now know... - driver8 08:21:43 04/30/04 (0)

no troubles - eungkim67 18:30:22 04/29/04 (8)

Re: no troubles - Jay 22:24:35 04/29/04 (7)

I really don't - eungkim67 16:03:19 04/30/04 (0)

No different than Wilson, Silverline or Merlin speakers with Dynaudio, SEAS or Scanspeak drivers - Ian Mackenzie 07:00:25 04/30/04 (5)

Re: OEM components - Jay 09:43:18 04/30/04 (0)

Re: No different than Wilson, Silverline or Merlin speakers with Dynaudio, SEAS or Scanspeak drivers - Hafdef 09:22:13 04/30/04 (0)

What after market "value" has been added in regard to the... - DeKay 08:53:35 04/30/04 (0)

Completely diferent. What if a Teac $149 speaker is - Duilawyer 07:16:06 04/30/04 (1)

How do you know it's not ? - chris_w 03:03:33 05/01/04 (0)

Healthy discussion - varied viewpoints - just like politics or religion - big grin - Triodeuser 17:06:47 04/29/04 (8)

Of course amps do have a high labor, design, and r&d costs... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 18:27:35 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Healthy discussion - varied viewpoints - just like politics or religion - big grin - Phil Tower 17:41:46 04/29/04 (6)

Re: Healthy discussion - varied viewpoints - just like politics or religion - big grin - elmuncy@yahoo.com 08:01:20 04/30/04 (0)

Re: Healthy discussion - varied viewpoints - just like politics or religion - big grin - Rod M 17:52:49 04/29/04 (2)

Re: Healthy discussion - varied viewpoints - just like politics or religion - big grin - Phil Tower 18:05:18 04/29/04 (1)

Steve Eddy is not the Devil hes just Dr EVIL !! - chris_w 12:29:34 04/30/04 (0)

I certainly agree - Triodeuser 17:50:16 04/29/04 (1)

Re: I certainly agree - Phil Tower 09:25:19 05/01/04 (0)

I am sure, Kevin, that you must appriciate the irony in the fact that - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:26:30 04/29/04 (4)

So will you be listing it on A'gon as a Eupen for $30? Just kidding, but........ - Rick W 16:13:13 04/29/04 (1)

Naw, but others are welcome to...but they will have to mark up to... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 16:18:30 04/29/04 (0)

So, is it all about post marathons ?...:-)..n/t - Audio Pharaoh 15:44:54 04/29/04 (1)

Not hardly, but it is ironic. nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:54:34 04/29/04 (0)

Two Points - kavakidd 14:22:34 04/29/04 (2)

Love your tag line!!...nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:25:17 04/29/04 (1)

Re: Love your tag line!!...nt - kavakidd 14:30:57 04/29/04 (0)

'JPS Digital AC is not a stock cable' ... - SoftwireEngineer 14:21:48 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - itsthemusic 13:57:25 04/29/04 (1)

In the 80's I used to work for a Boiler shop that - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:05:38 04/29/04 (0)

I think it is also worth noting that ... - bjh 13:46:52 04/29/04 (3)

I think my wife was correct when she said... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:56:47 04/29/04 (2)

Not all! I'm happy with my DH Labs BL1 and DIY power cords. ... - bjh 14:00:35 04/29/04 (1)

I am happy with both Goertz (who does make their own stuff)... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:09:02 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Caveat emptor, P.T. Barnum sayings, etc...(nt) - mkuller 13:16:40 04/29/04 (1)

Tell that to the FTC (nt) - Phil Tower 13:17:58 04/29/04 (0)

Simple..... - Jetsons 12:43:47 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - OK_phono 12:17:06 04/29/04 (1)

Re: Speaking of Nike... - mkuller 13:22:44 04/29/04 (0)

JPS also falsely claim different designs to "exactly match each components' needs" - Caymus 12:17:00 04/29/04 (10)

Re: That would be... - mkuller 13:29:37 04/29/04 (6)

If "Bayer Aspirin" and "Bayer Non-Aspirin" were the exact same product... - Dalton 13:45:55 04/29/04 (4)

Nutritional con-artists are constantly trying that - Caymus 14:14:47 04/29/04 (3)

Re: Nutritional con-artists are constantly trying that - Jack Gribble 23:07:16 04/29/04 (0)

curiously DBT proves the efficassy of Drugs. - chris_w 16:22:44 04/29/04 (0)

Why, can't you? I am sensitive - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:24:11 04/29/04 (0)

What if beneath the label they ALL were stamped "Advil Sinus and Cold" - Caymus 13:42:57 04/29/04 (0)

It is still just possible that, numbers or no, the filter - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:39:46 04/29/04 (2)

Identical part numbers for two products â€“ not likely! - Caymus 13:01:35 04/29/04 (1)

I am not going to buy one to find out!....lol...nt.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:05:19 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - marc g. 12:15:33 04/29/04 (1)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - elmuncy@yahoo.com 08:11:12 04/30/04 (0)

Just killing time till next month's MF reviews :-) (nt) - PdL 12:14:29 04/29/04 (9)

Yes, more coming up. Happy to oblige.(nt) - samtellig 13:47:40 04/29/04 (8)

Hi Sam. - Phil Tower 07:38:58 04/30/04 (1)

Thanks Phil. The next column will be a hoot. WATCH for it!(nt) - samtellig 09:38:25 04/30/04 (0)

And I will see it and moan, perhaps bitch a little, then go on reading the stuff I like. What a concept! - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:58:55 04/29/04 (5)

Oh, you'll love the next column. WATCH for it.(nt) - samtellig 14:06:01 04/29/04 (4)

Re: Oh, you'll love the next column. WATCH for it.(nt) - old geezer 17:16:47 04/29/04 (0)

Oh I will! But I will have the Holy Water and the Crucifix standing by...nt... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:10:32 04/29/04 (2)

My favorite Catholic Joke: - John Marks 16:07:10 04/29/04 (1)

Horrible. My Holy water is boiling.....nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 16:19:30 04/29/04 (0)

Bunch of Conspiracy Theorists with too much time on their hands and misguided axes to grind....;-)....nt - Ian Mackenzie 12:06:35 04/29/04 (15)

Your observation/comprehension skills need a little exercise...;-). - Hafdef 12:34:02 04/29/04 (1)

So does your perspective and sense of humor....nt - Ian Mackenzie 14:02:01 04/29/04 (1)

Has anyone ever noticed.... - Phil Tower 12:20:11 04/29/04 (11)

Hey Phil, - Sordidman 15:05:54 04/29/04 (6)

Re: Hey Phil, - Phil Tower 18:25:29 04/29/04 (5)

Good Example.....TG Audio.. - Ian Mackenzie 19:09:58 04/29/04 (4)

Re: Good Example.....TG Audio.. - Phil Tower 19:40:53 04/29/04 (3)

Re: Good Example.....TG Audio.. - Sean 20:26:13 04/29/04 (2)

Re: Good Example.....TG Audio.. - Phil Tower 07:27:11 04/30/04 (1)

Re: Good Example.....TG Audio.. - Jack Gribble 10:42:58 04/30/04 (0)

Well, yes, I can think of many more trite things to say..... - Ian Mackenzie 12:53:23 04/29/04 (3)

Re: Well, yes, I can think of many more trite things to say..... - Steve Eddy 13:03:43 04/29/04 (0)

Perhaps because the difference is that the - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:03:41 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Well, yes, I can think of many more trite things to say..... - Phil Tower 13:03:31 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Bunch of Conspiracy Theorists with too much time on their hands and misguided axes to grind....;-)....nt - Phil Tower 12:11:48 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - Phil Tower 12:00:45 04/29/04 (20)

Absolutely. JPS is taking advantage of their customers' lack of knowledge.... - Dalton 12:23:11 04/29/04 (19)

funny thing is - Bruce from DC 13:35:08 04/29/04 (14)

Re: funny thing is - Phil Tower 17:20:58 04/29/04 (0)

"cost-based pricing model" - Robert H. 15:22:48 04/29/04 (4)

Re: "cost-based pricing model" - elmuncy@yahoo.com 08:27:39 04/30/04 (1)

the review... - Jack Gribble 10:56:21 04/30/04 (0)

Now now, the label probably was made in Italy. - chris_w 01:26:51 04/30/04 (0)

just so, Robert. - Bruce from DC 15:40:02 04/29/04 (0)

More red herrings - Steve Eddy 14:11:30 04/29/04 (4)

Re: More red herrings - Bruce from DC 14:53:57 04/29/04 (2)

Re: More red herrings - Steve Eddy 15:37:16 04/29/04 (0)

The question is, now that we know what that particular JPS cable... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:00:06 04/29/04 (0)

I WAS concerned about the price... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:22:01 04/29/04 (0)

Hmmm....wonder if the filter arrangement was why I was getting less - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:42:25 04/29/04 (2)

Re: Hmmm....wonder if the filter arrangement was why I was getting less - Bruce from DC 14:55:56 04/29/04 (1)

No...it appears to be single-ended....but...interactions abound..nt. - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:01:05 04/29/04 (0)

All correct.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:45:12 04/29/04 (2)

Re: All correct.... - marc g. 13:06:21 04/29/04 (1)

There's no more shit left to kick out..:-) - Audio Pharaoh 15:54:21 04/29/04 (0)

Great post. That's exactly how I see it (nt) - Dave Kingsland 12:40:22 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - Paul L 11:57:41 04/29/04 (4)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - Chris R 14:11:25 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - Phil Tower 12:24:33 04/29/04 (0)

Business law and ethics. - Hafdef 12:13:49 04/29/04 (0)

If it was ONLY three times I wouldn't have bitched.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:07:20 04/29/04 (0)

You are using too large a paintbrush - jneutron 11:55:44 04/29/04 (17)

At least get your math right! - Rod M 12:13:09 04/29/04 (16)

Re: At least get your math right! - Ivan303 21:03:51 04/29/04 (4)

either way ... - garth 01:51:01 04/30/04 (1)

Re: either way ... - Ivan303 07:57:51 04/30/04 (0)

Re: At least get your math right! - Steve Eddy 21:26:10 04/29/04 (1)

Sorry Steve... - Ivan303 06:38:46 04/30/04 (0)

"JPS asserts that they spec the cable and that it is NOT a stock cable. It is manufactured per their spec. " - Dalton 13:28:06 04/29/04 (1)

OH YEAH? GET YOURS! - clarkjohnsen 12:52:28 04/29/04 (2)

$40? - garth 01:54:37 04/30/04 (0)

(I mistook the list price, but the argument stands. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:54:02 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Phono cartridges - Dave Kingsland 12:37:30 04/29/04 (1)

Milking? Horrible mental image there; inasmuch as most of the posters are.. - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:49:49 04/29/04 (0)

Re: At least get your math right! - jneutron 12:33:38 04/29/04 (3)

Re: At least get your math right! - Rod M 13:18:03 04/29/04 (2)

One of us has completely missed the point. - Rick W 16:05:42 04/29/04 (0)

Re: At least get your math right! - jneutron 13:30:58 04/29/04 (0)

Re: At least get your math right! - Phil Tower 12:29:30 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - Steve Eddy 11:45:46 04/29/04 (8)

There is a procedure for handling the situation. - tkheem 19:38:05 04/29/04 (4)

Re: There is a procedure for handling the situation. - Steve Eddy 20:56:08 04/29/04 (3)

I knew you would pull this trick sooner or later. - tkheem 18:15:40 04/30/04 (2)

Re: I knew you would pull this trick sooner or later. - sjb 23:11:19 05/01/04 (1)

I didn't feel it was necessary, but if you feel it's important... - tkheem 12:41:57 05/02/04 (0)

I'd re-package the paint again, mark it at $300/gal. - Payne Hertz 13:38:35 04/29/04 (1)

Damn! You made me snort coffee out my nose.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:46:52 04/29/04 (0)

I hate you, Steve.. - jneutron 11:57:40 04/29/04 (0)

Well said Kevin.... - Audio Pharaoh 11:33:22 04/29/04 (23)

huh? - Jack Gribble 15:52:31 04/29/04 (4)

That means.... - Audio Pharaoh 16:05:08 04/29/04 (3)

Audio Pharaoh and rp1... - Jack Gribble 16:15:21 04/29/04 (2)

Ok..sounds good !! - Audio Pharaoh 16:41:44 04/29/04 (0)

It would be a blast.....nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 16:21:45 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Well said Kevin.... - Phil Tower 12:09:23 04/29/04 (8)

Phil, - Audio Pharaoh 13:04:18 04/29/04 (7)

Re: Phil, - Phil Tower 13:16:44 04/29/04 (0)

Unfortunately, until we get some Eupin we don't know...nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:07:02 04/29/04 (5)

Haven't got any? Look, my friends. I happen to know that this is the "Eupin" express. - axolotl 15:39:41 04/29/04 (0)

Exactly... - Audio Pharaoh 13:10:15 04/29/04 (3)

But when the numbers match... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:14:31 04/29/04 (2)

Re: But when the numbers match... - Steve Eddy 13:45:59 04/29/04 (1)

Then again, who is able to tell the difference? nt.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:00:37 04/29/04 (0)

Re: Well said Kevin.... - Hafdef 12:00:58 04/29/04 (8)

The issue as I see it... - Audio Pharaoh 12:58:35 04/29/04 (7)

Re: The issue as I see it... - Hafdef 15:19:49 04/29/04 (5)

Agreed.......however - Audio Pharaoh 16:12:25 04/29/04 (4)

Re: Agreed.......however - Hafdef 17:53:47 04/29/04 (3)

I am amazed that the same folk that don't believe.. - rp1@surfnetusa.com 18:33:10 04/29/04 (2)

I stated my opinions very clearly on that subject...& a further example in the Cable Industry.. - Audio Pharaoh 13:23:06 04/30/04 (1)

I didn't have a problem with folk wanting to do a listening - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:31:03 04/30/04 (0)

Agreed. I don't think any of the rises to the level of a "consumer revolt".... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:11:30 04/29/04 (0)

Re: What's REALLY going on here? - ErYAG 11:17:25 04/29/04 (1)

outdoor extension cord - Jack Gribble 11:25:08 04/29/04 (0)

Follow Ups

Great post. That's exactly how I see it (nt) - Dave Kingsland 12:40:22 04/29/04 (0)