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i Channel Dynaco st70

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Posted on May 22, 2003 at 05:48:51
paul cbc
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Hello!

I am having some trouble with my Dynaco ST 70. Only getting output from one channel. I've tried some of the basics: Checking speaker wire and interconnects, checking the speakers themselves, switching the inputs, etc. Switched the output tubes and the 7199's-no dice. Checked bias and the left side was a bit high at 1.7, the right side was 46.3(!!)
Turned the amp off. Any clues from the experts? Your time and help is greatly appreciated.
paul

 

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Re: i Channel Dynaco st70, posted on May 22, 2003 at 07:52:35
Joe Curcio
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Check to saee if the 15.6 ohm resistor (on the output tubes pins 1 & 8) is open on the side with the high bias (43.6 vdc).

If you find that it has opened (high resistance)it is probable that one of the output tubes on that side went into saturation (high current). If you don't wish to risk further damage to the output tubes it's probably time to replace the output tube sockets and associated solder connections (and wire).

Also, the 1.7 volt bias (on the good side) is indicative of a problem with the bias circuit. You may want to try implimenting the "bias expansion tweak" that I have posted on the dynaco-doctor site. You should also check (and possibly change out) the selenium rectifier.

Let us know how it works out

 

Re: 1 Channel Dynaco st70, posted on May 22, 2003 at 20:09:25
paul cbc
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Joe,

Thanks for the input. I will check the resistor. A couple questins: Is it necessary to replace all 4 output sockets at once or just the chanel in question?(2) Have I toasted my output tubes? Is the 1.7v bias on the right side that high-a serious problem??

Many thanks for your help and the site.
-paul

 

Re: 1 Channel Dynaco st70, posted on May 22, 2003 at 22:17:40
Joe Curcio
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It's likely that if you re-insert the output tubes the original sockets will work fine - for a time but that's the problem - you just don't know when one of them will let go. This is how you got here in the first place. Replacing them all is just good insurance plus while your under the chassis it's a good time to get the whole job done.

It's hard to say if the output tubes (on the side with the high bias) are defective - probably not. You have placed them in the other channel (I think you said) and they functioned well so they're probably OK. If they have been harmed with the saturation problem as I suspect, the worse that can happen is that you will probably fry the replacement cathode resistor again. BTW, you can replace the 15.6 ohm resistor with a 10 ohm / 3W resistor but if you do it is _mandatory_ that you set the bias to be 1.0 volts (as opposed to 1.56 volts)


1.7 is a little high (representing 54mA per tube) but is not too serious. However if this is the bias you are getting with the bias pot fully counterclockwise, this indicates a problem with the bias supply - you should look into the bias tweak or updating the bias supply.

 

Re: 1 Channel Dynaco st70, posted on May 23, 2003 at 18:57:07
paul cbc
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Joe,

Thanks for the continued help. The side with the 1.7v bias reading is not opened up fully counterclockwise. I will report back when I check the resistor.

Thanks again!
paul

 

Re: 1 Channel Dynaco st70, posted on May 25, 2003 at 18:43:45
paul cbc
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Joe,

Indeed the left side 15.6 Ohm resistor had failed. Replaced both sides with 10 Ohm 1 watt(until I can order 10 ohm/3 watt) resistors and set the bias to 1.0v both sides. It's working! Of course if it happens again it's on to the tube sockets you spoke of.
Thank you for your help!!
paul

 

Re: Why 3 watt cathode resistors?, posted on May 28, 2003 at 10:26:20
Russ57


 
I like 1/2 watt metal film, one on each tube. Lets me check bias on each tube and match tbes in circuit. But the real advantage is if and when a tube acts up, or the bias supply does, then that resistor becomes a fuse and protects things...like an output transformer. I just can't see the need for a 3 watt resistor so please correct me if I am wrong.

Russ

 

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