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In Reply to: A *few* exceptions?! Are you kidding? posted by Rick W on December 11, 2006 at 16:46:24:
I've got to agree, almost none of those guys made it big. Aside from Scofield, Kenny Garrett, coupla others, none of these guys made any real impact post-Miles.
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He cited Tony Williams and McLaughlin as exceptions, both of whom were long gone by '73. Also, Rick lists quite a few players from that period who have done well since. We've all forgotten to mention Rick Margitza, so there's another one.
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I still say that post-71, most of Miles's band-mates failed to live up to the careers and musical importance of his pre-71 sidemen.
From what I read, his involvement with running the band was minimized after his come-back and all through the 80s, comparing the hands-on approach to his pre-71 bands...
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Its possible that some records I'm looking at were recorded earlier than the release dates, but according to the dates listed......Scofield, Grossman, Foster, Garrett, Stern, Mino Cinelu, Bill Evans (tenor), Branford Marsalis, Marcus Miller, Sonny Fortune, Liebman all played w/Miles after '71.Some other good players like Mtume, Badal Roy, Carlos Garnett, Cedric Lawson (I knew him at Berklee and later, and he's a damn good organ player), Airto Moreira also played w/Miles after '71 -- at least on recordings.
Let's not even compare this list to the guys he had in his bands from, say, 1955 to 1971.
It'd be like a team of Boro Park yeshiva students playing football with the Sing Sing team.
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they're hardly turkeys who have nuthin' to say without Miles. Virtually everybody I know would sure as hell dig playing with guys like Garrett, Liebman, Scofield, Foster etc. A number of Miles' sidemen *after* '71 have gone on to play with some of the best jazzers in the world and create smokin' music, both in others' groups and their own. We should all be so fortunate to "fall short" the way they have.
I'd dig your recommendations regarding an album from each of these guys that you think holds its own real well in the company of the greats.
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