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In Reply to: Must have Dinu Lipatti recordings? posted by jimbill on December 9, 2006 at 16:27:27:
jimbill,The trills, the t(h)rills, and another Lipatti fan, I do not have many of his LP's but one which I can recommend to you, is:
Schumann: Piano Concerto, Carnaval/Dinu Lipatti/OdeSR/Ansermet B3/Decca/SDD/271
To me, this LP is special for a number of reasons, not least, that the piano concerto in A, is taken from a live mono radio broadcast recording (albeit electronically messed about with to stereo) some 8 months before Lipatti died on the 2nd of this month... back in 1950 aged just 43.
Enjoy
FW
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I have never heard of a Dinu Lipatti recording of 'Carnaval'.The Chopin recordings ( with the exception of at least one waltz which was recorded circa 1947 and can be found on an APR CD ) have been released recently on a cheap 2 disc EMI set with generally better transfers than previously.
His recording of the 'Bacarolle' can be confidently stated as the most profound ever recorded. His B minor sonata only has Rubinstein which equals it artistically, although Lipatti has more elan than him in the scherzo and finale.
His recording of the 'Bacarolle' can be confidently stated as the most profound ever recorded. His B minor sonata only has Rubinstein which equals it artistically, although Lipatti has more elan than him in the scherzo and finale>I don't think any of Lipatti's Chopin equals the best from the really great Chopin pianists - just listen to Sofronitsky, Josef Hofmann (much better first movement of 3rd sonata), Rachmaninov, Horowitz, Rosenthal and Friedman amongst others in the Waltzes and Mazurkas for a wider technical and emotional palette. Of course Lipatti is good, but he wasn;t the best in these works.
Ramesh,The Decca SDD271 couplet is Schumann's Piano Concerto A with Le Carnaval Op 9 Ballet.
- Lipatti is neither mentioned in the LP notes for Le Carnaval nor does Le Carnaval appear on the programme in the photograph of the original concert announcement for 22/2/50. Probably safe to assume that he does not play in the piece on this LP - unless someone else knows otherwise?
Enjoy
Frank, 'Carnaval' might be the orchestration by Ravel of four movements from the piano suite. If so, may I direct you to a review I recently did on sa-cd.net. Here, 'Carnaval' is hitched with Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition. The SACD label is Talent.Mr Evans : I was only referring to the Bacarolle and the B minor sonata. Friedman and Hofman recorded only a sliver of the Chopin repertoire. For me, Cortot and Rubinstein are the greatest of those who have recorded the bulk of the repertoire. Bryce Morrison, chief piano reviewer of the 'Gramophone', believes Lipatti's Bacarolle is the greatest. Horowitz's recordings of the work are great on detail, but do not give the 'arch' structure of the work as inimitably as Lipatti, with the climax unerringly placed without any thumping.
The criteria for sublimity for me in the B minor sonata is 1, thematic integration within each movement, and rubato with tempo shifts reflecting the modulations rather than going against them, allied, 2, to the counterpointing of certain melodic fragments and harmonic shifts across the four movements to emphasise the unity of the concept.
I have no doubt that pianist A does movement B well, and pianist C does movement D memorably. But Chopin composed the greatest romantic sonata apart from the Liszt B minor, which is not the same concept as a picturesque suite of four movements. Through whatever alchemy, Rubinstein and Lipatti give the impression of inevitable and irresistible organic and spiritual development over a span of four movements. Actually, so did Emil Gilels, but his tempi sound somewhat heavy, and dare I say it, too late Beethovenian for Chopin.
since I was about 10 (my mom gave me the LP as a Xmas present). IMO it has never been equaled, and believe me, I have sampled just about all the available recordings (and purchased most of them) in the intervening years attempting to find its successor.Thanks for the info--I never knew that the Lipatti Schumann was taken from a radio broadcast. That does explain the somewhat dim sound.
C.B.It is a joy when something as simple & humble as an old mono LP can hold such high personal value.
Lipatti was the most spiritual of Western musicians, and was unsurpassed in his chosen repertoire. The question of which Lipatti recordings to get is easily answered: all of them (but watch for counterfeits and misattributed performances).The live recording of the Schumann PC augments the Karajan/Philharmonia studio version that most collectors own. Get both.
Lipatti was the most spiritual of Western musicians, and was unsurpassed in his chosen repertoire>I think this is really going too far. There are several better Chopin waltzes (and pianists), and give me Feinberg in Bach Partita 1. I love Lipatti also, but I'd put him with somebody like Michelangeli - a fine artist but not a genius at the piano like Rachmaninov.
Rachmaninov was a diffident performer at the piano in many works, particularly his own. We do have his great Chopin sonata and Carnaval, and he had technique like few others. So did Hoffman, but most now find his playing too glossy and superficial inspite of the matchless fingerwork.I haven't heard the Waltzes by Lipatti in many years, I'll have to revisit. Perhaps too much praise has been heaped on this artist, very young when he died with very few recordings to his credit. Modern medicine could have saved him, or at least given him many more years to mature.
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Dinu Lipatti (1917-1950).
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