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There are 4 interim tunes which might evoke some oo's and ah's or boo's and baa's.bgs
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bgs
#1) Jeez, of course I have this LP, but didn't remember the tune being on it nor Eric playing so inside.#2) Thought it might be Griffith Park, but the piano sounded more like Herbie to me. Is this from the live LP? I don't have that one, just all the studio sessions including one w/Chaka and one w/Nancy.
#3) Never woulda guessed Ammons. Don't think this is representative of his best playing. Must be fairly old 'cause Bartz's playing was unrecognizable to me and I'm very familiar with his sound.
This wasn't live but it was done about a or so after the Chaka project. I like Cic on this, in fact I like the feeling of the tune.I like Gene Ammons no matter what he plays. Obviously no player is great all the time but I would always cut him some slack. He always sounds honest. Bartz didn't have as much dark fuzz to his sound on this. 1974
I never would have guessed Ammons either. I like Jug, but that boogaloo shit drives me crazy after about a minute. Oh well. Most of the players on the Griffith Park thing were a surprise to me, but Joe's sound was pretty clear. The Red Rodney thing totally caught me off guard. I should have recognized the Clifford solo too, but I didn't until it was pointed out. All in all, about an average score for me I guess. I've certainly done worse! Thanks as always, Barry.
I was going to put on a Gene Ammons ballad because Jug can 'testify' but my granddaughter came dancing into my room while this other thing was playing. She scares me how well she understands the feeling of different types of music and she sure knew what to do with that. Knocked me out so I recorded it. See how simple it is?Red Rodney has a special place in my heart. He lived about 12 miles from here and brought a lot of bands , all of them very good into the clubs I worked. Red was an absolute softy, happy with his clean life and proud of being straight. He and his wife were like grandma and grandpa. I think he always was amazed that he survived his early days. And, he really can play and run a band. We were sorry to see him go.
That Griffith Park album is pretty damn good. According to Lenny White they all had rediscovered their roots on that album. True or not it's a feel good story.
You always do good. We got to watch out for chapra, he's getting to be a killer!
Thanks for the feeling.
bgs
I was thinking it might be him -- the kind of forceful way he ends phrases as in 1:05 to 1:15... it's something I associate with him.
#1) Sounds like very early Freddie & Eric to me. Never heard Dolphy play so straight ahead.#2) Freddie/Henderson/Herbie? I know I have another version of this tune, but can't think of what album its on.
#3) That low growl-speak on tpt. reminds me of Nat (I think its his tune). Nat usually has more chops though. Thought for a minute the tenor was Teddy Edwards, but dunno, him and Nat playing together? Alto? Like his playing. Never heard this before.
#1: I've got this record as part of ED's Prestige box. Haven't heard MT performed by anyone else.#2: Know this one by heart since it's one of my favorite pieces, so I'll let the others guess. Beautiful tune written by the bass player, beautiful playing by all.
#3: The tenor sounds familiar. Even the tune seems to be a latin arrangement of a big band piece I've heard before.
#4: They're playing CB from Daahoud. First soloist sounds like FH the way he slides into the high notes. Second soloist... I don't think I've heard him before.
Miss Tony wasn't performed before and after as far as I know.The tune on #3 was a head tune done on the spot.
How come you do so well?
Okay, so you got the trumpet player wrong on #4 but so what!!
Chapra, you're getting to be mighty good at this. You must be doing a lot of listening. Nice to see.
dh
... and also to some books I was reading a couple of years back, I got bitten by the bop bug. I had a tepid interest in jazz and almost no interest in bop till about 2.5 years back, when I came across this site while googling for some classical music stuff (I think it was something about Viotti's violin concertos)... and never looked back.But easy on the compliments fellas, I am perfectly aware that I'm nowhere close to being in your league.
Is that NA on trumpet ?
Very good stuff Barry. I know I should know them, but I'm not good at all in this game hahaha.On 1 the ts has some weird scales. The knowledgeables say he's ED and he might well be.
On track 2 the drummer has the energy and rythmic drive of AB, at least he made me think of him. WS on sax?
Track 3 is something I've heard before and I know that sax, but none of the cats I think about fits. The piano could be RB?
Track 4 is brilliant. I want that disc hahaha ;-)
1--Well that's ED on bass clar for sure. Sounds like maybe KD on trumpet. Probably RH on drums. Maybe JB on piano. Never heard this, nice. I'll have to take a stab at the others later.
dh
#2 swings beautifully! Sounds like something the Jazztet would do, and that may be AF on flugel. Tenor sounds like JH, but the vocabulary would be unusually angular if it is him. I'm not great at guessing pianists, but I'd say CW if I had to.#3 This ain't my kind of thing at all. Turrentine?
#4 Nice. WS and FH I think. Is this from that album The Eternal Triangle?
dh
You got a few yups and a no.
Allright...I'll be the fool....1. I'll go with the obvious guess: E.D. After the first chorus, I thought some guy was playin' one of those Grafton altos.
2. The tpt has kind of a N.A. vibe. Maybe with C.L. on tenor? (Wild shot guess..because I know they worked together some in the 60s.)3. From the TTT School...gots to be B.E.
4. Don't know who these guys are, but they really nailed the head (who's solo is that anyway?). Or did they hit the nail on the head? I'm all confused now.
Tough Texas Tenor...the term stuck in my brain from reading it somewhere...probably an album liner.
It's a legitimate term and it's meaning is understood by the jazz community, generally speaking. maybe not used as much now because there aren't as many practitioners. Arnett Cobb was a prime example.
Blowing the shit out of "San Antonio Rose" might be my favorite example . . .
Good one as is "Pigeon Peas" which I believe whoever wrote the liner notes mentions the Arnett Cobb influence. That's from the 'Preach, Brother' album.
1 yup 2 nope 3 nope 4 I'm not telling yet!!!!
Well...I'm shocked on #3. I thought that was a slam-dunk. But those guys on #4 can REALLY play. That head was probably a little ditty they just worked out at the recording studio the day of...(but, as good as they are, I kinda doubt it!).
The head was a pretty famous solo, in my day anyway. You might get an idea from the intro. That's a CLUE!
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