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In Reply to: Re: SACD VS DVD-A ( round 1500) Ray Brown Trio...by Ken Kessler.... posted by 2x6spds on May 08, 2003 at 08:33:02:
Yes me too I tend to tend for SACD, BUT I still not have gathered enough evidence, they are so much imponderable ( Who did what with what..)
The only thing that I will never agree with is the copycode.
So does a lot of people who do like DVD-A over SACD.....
Maybe this is all too academic, and we are losing the REAL fun with music....
Maybe we are perverted....
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Patrick,With the emergence of universal players this boring discussion should go away and we should focus on how good the software and systems can get. Since I use the sound of a piano to calibrate the resolution of my system, I'm continually searching for the best solo piano disc in each format. Right now, my choice for DVD-A and overall is the 5.1 track on the AIX Mozart & Schuman disc. This is closely followed by my SACD reference, the Lazic/Ravel Retrospection on Channel Classics. However, I can only play this in stereo right now and I understand that it is just plain scary in MC. While I can hear differences, I'm a long way from any judgement as to which format is best.
On the other hand, there is a great deal of software out there in both formats which doesn't hold a candle to RR's HDCDs.
I have the Sony Classical M Perahia Chopin Etudes and the AIX sampler with the Revolutionary etude (op.10,no.12).
IMHO the Sony stereo SACD blows away the AIX m/c DVD-A, at least in terms of sound quality/fidelity.
m/c doesn't really seem to enhance the experience for this recording.
I think I have the AIX Sampler, but I never play it. The Perahia Chopin Etudes isn't particularly good sonically.
I played these directly from my Dennon 2900 to my Sunfire Grand amp and through a set of 5 magnepans.It's funny but the only difference I expected to hear was some additional hall ambience with the MC. Not the case. Somehow more of the piano's harmonics seem to come forth with the multichannel. There's a sweeter sound and you can hear more of the piano's lace and timbre. Hope you can set it up on MC soon (with matched speakers). You heard right, relatively speaking it sounds downright scary.
And I agree, one very good piano recording can tell you multitudes about a player, preamp, or speaker.
I also agree, let's keep the SACD/DVD-A war going. As long as we have the competition we'll continue to see good recordings and plenty of them. Too bad DTS came a little before it's time. I'd love to seem them in the thick of this battle. Between SACD, DVD-A, and DTS recordings I'm able to hear a lot of good multichannel performances.
And yes, God willing the players of the future will be multifunction players. This Dennon is really opening up my choices, not to mention the fact that it has greatly simplified my system.
even moving from 192/24 stereo to 96/24 5.1 (try the Guarneri String Quartet) of lower harmonics coming through more clearly on the MC leading to a warmer sound overall. I'm expecting to hear something similar from MC SACD when Denon gets around to selling me a 3900 in the fall (I can't live without HDCD).
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Apparently still undecided whether they'll support one format or the other, even though they master in Hi Rez PCM. HDCD probably buys them 44.1/20 but they are the best argument going for high resolution masters even for low resolution formats.
TIA
but my favorites are the Rite of Spring, Rachmaninoff Symphonic Dances and the absolutely stunning Scheherazade and Respighi discs.
The problem with so-called universal player is that they mostly are mostly favoring one system in the sound quality, the Linn may be the first one not to...
DVD-A in my ear still sound with an digital edge ( so does SACD too but on a lower level )
But some of the DAD ( Chesky ) did sound sooo good...That I really think that the most important part is without doubt the care from the guys at the command...
MC compare to the highest quality avaible on plain stereo, is still difficult to mach...you gain something and...you lose something.
Of course we will have to wait for more channel to get it more right....
But using MC can be real fun and...scary ! As you said.
At the end of the month I will be at the Frankfurt high End, and I will see and ear a lot of new component, I wonder what will be seen from SACD and DVD-A !
So long, Jim.
Hopefully both SACD and DVD-A will be very well represented.
A small resumé.
I'm stuck with 2 different players each accommodating noncompatible formats. I love DVD Audio, it's been an eye opening experience the only disappointing aspect of which is the limited musical offerings.I've been offended by the unpleasant zealotry of some fans of SACD which has made discussions about the relative merits of the 2 formats difficult.
I certainly haven't come to any final decision about which format I prefer, they're both excellent. At this point, I think the SACD format may be the slightly better format for reproducing music.
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