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In Reply to: First of all, I don't censure anybody and secondly..... posted by Chris Garrett on April 13, 2003 at 14:38:57:
Don't jump on your high horses!Here's some feedback
1) I know you don't censor people, I was just curious why you were so prompt in questioning someone coming to the Audiobahn (the right place for that) and saying that she prefers the sound of DVD-A... and likes the software better. I think Kuma answered your points.
2) The old days are over. I understand you've seen the begining of the whole thing, and many ups and downs, but I think SACD has passed the stage where its future is uncertain. With more than 1,000 titles available and 20 new releases a week, I think it's time to relax and enjoy the music, rather than spend time defending it.
3) DVD-A is where SACD was (probably) a year or so ago. Why not let it grow at its own pace and let the format take its first steps? I think it's not useful to repeat that there are more titles in SACD. It's so obvious that there's no need.
4) I think you're underestimating the number of high-end players being sold. If you go in a store, you'll probably see more people in one afternoon buying >10,000 worth of AV gear than in "pure" audio gear. The audio section of HT has improved a lot in the past few years, and all the R&D budgets as well as the end user budgets are going there.
5) Like it or not, potentially all DVD players will become DVD-A compatible, most likely in the mid- to high end of the market. There's nothing you and I can do about it, it's a trend.
6) Just because a technology is efficient and succeeds in reaching lower retail prices, doesn't mean it's crap. The price of DVD-A compatible hardware follows that of DVD players. You can get a fantastic machine today for a reasonable budget.
Take care also,
Eric
PS: I'm not sure my sentence was clear, and maybe you misunderstood me. "Fair's fair, you should let people express that they like DVD-A better just like it's fair to let it happen *** that is, expressing that they like SACD better *** on the HRH"
Follow Ups:
nobody told Kuma that she couldn't express her opinion about DVDA relative to SACD. Nobody told Kuma that her opinion was wrong. I've talked with Kuma on our chatroom for the better part of two years, so I'm somewhat familiar with what she has and what music she likes to listen to. Not intimately familiar, but I've got a clue. I questioned her findings based on her equipment, namely the Sony DVDV/SACD player that she bought six months back.
Kuma auditions a lot of gear in her home, which is great. She's had my unit in, but that was a while ago and we don't know how long she listened to it, how many discs she had and what discs she had. Short term auditory memory is vastly suspect and long term auditory memory is about as reliable as the 8-Track tape was. So sonic comparisons are iffy at best, when done over time.People wouldn't be wrong in telling me that I need to get some of the newer, more user friendly DVDAs before I dredge up my personal complaints about the format and I don't have a problem with that.
I mean, a person's got a $30k+ Merdian combo from the people who invented the format and that same person's got a $200 DVDV/SACD player from the people who invented it and they conclude that the former is better sounding to their ears, Go figure?
As far as the history lesson goes, I'm not really interested in speculating where DVDA is now, compared with SACD. They both are still being released, they both can still be bought at Best Buy, so both are viable now. There are DVDA titles that I want to get and I'll eventually do so, same as with LPs and SACDs and CDs.
As for your points 4,5, and 6? I have some mass market stuff and I have a budget SET/Horn system that I put together for about the same outlay in cash as the HT rig and the STEREO smokes it in sonics. I'm not saying that Digital hasn't gotten better in the past 10 years, but to say a $175 combo player doesn't have deficiencies is delusional.
As I said up above in another post, many people come to the digital boards with an HT backround. They've never owned the upper levels of HiFi and if they've even heard it, it's probably been at a dealer's place or a buddy's place, briefly. They don't have a context to judge what really sounds good, when all they've heard are the mass market HT systems. That's just my opinion.
It's akin to somebody being a member of the rice burner/pocket rocket car club trying to school the Ferrari club owners in the nuances of high performance cars. Sure, their cars go varoom, but it ain't the same thing.
As far as your post script goes, if you want people to be able to post comments without any follow-up from others, then you're at the wrong place. You're welcome to go over to HiRez and rebutt points made about DVDA, as long as it's in a clear and concise manner and free of personal insults, like your heearing sucks, remove the earwax, why don't 'cha?
Well, time to walk the dog.
.
I cannot respond to such long posts, anyway :)
Let's say you were right on this one
Let's move onBest
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