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In Reply to: still Chris if DVD-Audio actually released the entire Beatles catalog with NO SACD releases of the posted by Teresa on April 06, 2003 at 13:20:02:
As for DVD-A being inferior to SACD, no-one can say that, there's a lot of evidence that high-end DVD-A records sound superb. Only a handful of SACD purists dare to state these things, and a few industry figures with a vested financial interest in the matter.Somehow, I doubt the Beatles would not be released on SACD. But I think it doesn't matter whether the Beatles is released on DVD-A, or SACD, or both. While it would help DVD-A gain market awareness, there are deeper, long-term factors that drive this format: compatibility with all LPCM formats (ie 500,000 titles of the legacy CD catalog), versatility as an authoring format, open-source specifications which guarantee a level of stability over time, audio-visual interactive content, compatibility with a potentially huge installed base of players, etc.
Besides, generations have passed. If you're thinking of major popular titles, releasing the Linkin Park Meterora would be more important than many historical releases (even though I'm not a fan of LP).
Releasing the Matrix: Reloaded soundtrack on DVD-A would do more for the format than releasing the entire Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Police, etc catalog.Best
Eric
PS: You can listen to your favourite LPs on DVD-A, too. More and more people are looking into that.
Follow Ups:
that this post is posted by a SACD supporter (yes Daniel, we know you support "both" formats) and the bulk of the posts, which are on the DVD-A forum, are responses from mainly SACD supporters, like Chris, Teresa etc. If it wasn't for Eric and 9fold, it would be like the SACd supporters were having the discussion by themselves! Hey you SACD people, are you bored? Still feel the need to rise up whenever DVD-A threatens to raise its head? The Domino theory went out of fashion a long time ago, better modernize your tactics.
... that go to Hi-Rez just to troll or post their discontent with SACD. I believe that unhappy folks are unhappy folks, regardless of their format choice. If they were truly happy, there would be more listening and less bickering.Which reminds me, I need to go to the listening room myself ...
Honestly, I've had the DVDA player out in the main rig for the better part of a month and I've listened to four of my 14 DVDA discs on it. Most of my listening is CD, FWIW.
from making these comments based on a list of 14 DVD-A, when you haven't seriously tried the format. There's a lot more to DVD-A than the 14 (Warner?) titles you have, if you would only look into it.Best
there's probably more out on SACD than I'd want to get on DVDA. I've bought more LPs and CDs over the past ten months than DVDAs too. However, we'll see what shakes out.
I don't expect anything major to happen that will create a huge momentum for DVD-A in a spectacular way (maybe I'm wrong, but I think this is not so important), but rather a slow evolutionary move, throughout the music industry, going down the supply chain. It will take time, but it's already happening.Best
Eric
PS: that doesn't prevent DSD to progress within its own natural market... as long as Sony and Philips can subsidize it. The existing SACD catalog is already the biggest free lunch of the music industry, for everyone to enjoy :)
it is pure DVD-Audio that I find lacking in musical qualities. Yes SACD is better by DAD and Vinyl can be very good indeed.
...only it had its limitations, and it is very cumbersome as an authoring format. Your point of view is strange: DVD-A is only an authoring format, it does not have any sonic qualities in itself. DVD-A is only the successor of the DAD format: It is based on the same DVD specs, uses the same media, and supports the same formats. Whatever you have on a DAD, you can have on a DVD-A: the 24/96 tracks, and the DD5.1 DVD-V section if you need one. In fact, every commercial DVD-A on the market is a DAD also. However, as you know, DVD-A allows for 24/192 stereo (and perhaps higher), as well as 6 full discrete channels at 24/96.The transfer and remastering process is the key to what is important to you (sonic quality, analogue feel), not the authoring format itself, which is neutral. If you used tube gear etc to transfer analog sources (or your LPs) to LPCM, you would most likely obtain the same sound on your DVD (be it DAD or DVD-A).
I hope this helps
Best
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