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In Reply to: Re: One more thing posted by Martin419 on November 12, 2005 at 17:19:43:
>>Can you please go back into your "research" mode, and name all the DVD-Video player models which would have a technical problem?<<Yours would. That's all I need to know.
>>As far as I am aware, the DVD players "of the vast-majority millions of people who own a DVD player that does not have DVD-Audio capability" [or don't use six analog jacks] by all accounts play the CD side (and DVD side) perfectly well.<<
Given the multitude of complaints about playback issues for nearly every DualDisc sold, I wouldn't make such a bold statement. On Amazon.com it seems there are more complaints about playback issues on a multitude of players than there are actual kudos for the music.
>>As for the Denon 2900, 3900 and 5900 family, these all play the DVD-Audio content fine. (So these plainly do not fall into your group.)<<
I know you are desperately trying to dodge the issue, but the fact is that the majority of DualDiscs on the market DO NOT have DVD-Audio content. Too bad that inconvenient little piece of information screws up your spin.
>>And regarding Dolby, which clearly "sucks" to you, isn't it quite bizarre then that you saw fit to acquire an HT system with Bryston amps etc. to play back this really sucky sucky Dolby 5.1 audio through it?! ;-)<<
Yes, I use the cheap stuff to playback movies. So what's your point? Do you even have one?
>>Nope. Put your glasses on. And look again. Closer.<<
I don't need glasses, or reading lessons. Looky here:
See that logo in the lower right-hand corner? It says "Compact Disc." I can see it without having to squint.
You can also look here:
Page 8 contains a chart showing all of the discs the player is supposed to play. There's that big, fat Compact Disc logo again!
Got anything else you need to be embarrassed over? I'm game :-)
>>Indeed, we expect nothing less from you. <<
Who is "we?" You and your lengthy list of Audio Asylum sockpuppets? Or did you forget to take your meds again?
Follow Ups:
> > Given the multitude of complaints about playback issues for nearly every DualDisc sold, I wouldn't make such a bold statement. < <And if you read them, most of them revolve around people trying to copy them on computer drives.
There's also a troll going round every DualDisc title on Amazon who's posted the same inane message.
> > but the fact is that the majority of DualDiscs on the market DO NOT have DVD-Audio content. < <
Simply wrong there. Show us your "research" to support your "fact".
> > I don't need glasses, or reading lessons. Looky here: < <
f.y.i. your statement was wrong. The logo does not say "Compact Disc Digital Audio" (as you said earlier), but what it says on my player is: "Compact Disc Digital Video"
Anyway, DualDiscs don't have any Redbook logo on them.
> > Who is "we?" < <
All the readers of the forum who think you are complete twit who hasn't got a life. What does your poor wife think of your spending all this time writing crap about discs that you don't intent to buy? (Or, maybe it's a blessed relief when you're out of the way.)
> > And if you read them, most of them revolve around people trying to copy them on computer drives. < <Oh, the horror! Those silly people, expecting something advertised as functioning just like a CD to actually work just like a CD!
> > Simply wrong there. Show us your "research" to support your "fact". < <
You're right - out of the 101 discs listed under the DualDisc category, 68 of them probably have DVD-A content. About 55 of them come from Silverline, the remainder from UMG and Warner (and one from BMG). You see Martin - I can admit when I'm wrong. To bad you're not mature enough to do the same.
> > f.y.i. your statement was wrong. The logo does not say "Compact Disc Digital Audio" (as you said earlier), but what it says on my player is: "Compact Disc Digital Video" < <
Oh gosh, what a HUGE difference! Martin scores again!
However, I will repeat what I said previously, which you ignored in your hope of scoring a minor point:
it is quite reasonable to expect that the player can play CDs without any problem. Since your player cannot play the "CD" side of a DualDisc, which is advertised as being CD-compatible, then there is a problem with your player, or a problem with the media, or both. This kind of incompatibility is not acceptable to most reasonable, thinking people. Since you have stated several times that this incompatibility is acceptable to you, then by your own terms you must be a troll, a snob, or just plain plain stupid (or all three).
> > Anyway, DualDiscs don't have any Redbook logo on them. < <
You finally figured this out. Congratulations.
> > All the readers of the forum who think you are complete twit who hasn't got a life. < <
And that would be...you? I find it awfully funny that a person who has used at least six different monikers, deliberately sockpuppeted, amassed over three thousand posts in just _two_ forums on AA, with a stated life-mission of defending "the purity of future audio transmission," would try to claim that someone else hasn't got a life. If you want to see someone who hasn't got a life, Martin, you need only look at the reflection in your computer screen.
> > What does your poor wife think of your spending all this time writing crap about discs that you don't intent to buy? (Or, maybe it's a blessed relief when you're out of the way.) < <
And now you've proved that you are also a worthless pile of dung. I have NEVER stooped down to insulting your family. It would never even occur to me to be so vulgar. Apparently nothing is beneath you, though. How utterly classless and contemptible you are. Have fun cowering in your wretched little Tooting hovel with your crappy mass-market electronics, you useless worm.
as it's obvious that there is no love loss between the both of you. From this point on, it'll be the same deal as it was between Jazz and DUI over on HiRez.You can both post to the same thread, but do NOT post in reply to one another. Any explicit references to the other, or for that matter, any witty implicit references, will be deemed a violation of the King's decree and summary execution will result.
Email me if either of you don't understand.
Personally, I don't think that Martin insulted your wife or your family, per se, but rather, it was more an insult directed towards you, FWIW and notwithstanding the melodrama.
Thanks for playing along.
Very amusing - thanks for the laugh guys... :-) But - I have harped about my 5900 not playing the CD side - and yes racerguy - it is because the dvd side is dolby digital and my rig is primarily geered towards a nice stereo mix. ) I won't buy any more dual discs because nothing is stated on the label for most - and again I have harped for a real live spec. I would have bought the latest Dave Mathews on Dual disc - but bought the CD instead. Why? Because of bad experiences I have had with others - and even though there is DVD-A on that disc - it usually is never stated on the disc... It is always a 'surprise' - and I don't really like sutprises. I like to know what I am purchasing.
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