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In Reply to: Re: that's a shame . . . . posted by lazarus28 on October 27, 2004 at 12:52:47:
Too early to tell or start class action lawsuits. Last track not playing could be a authoring issue or a DualDisc technology issue.Not clear to me if it is just left off or defective.
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I have to believe that it is a mastering error when creating the DualDisc. The full song is on the DVD-Audio side, as well as on the redbook CD issue.It appears to be an unfortunate error, not a good one to make when releasing your first widespread commercial DualDisc.
I've seen this sort of this happen before. And it's absolutely nothing to do with the format per se. Rather some chap in the mastering studio must have made a small mistake, and in the rush to get it out, the discs weren’t checked thoroughly enough. I've already alerted Warner, and I expect this issue will be corrected. Sure, it will be an embarrassment to them, but I expect them step up to the mark and sort it out. And that’s what counts at the end of the day.As for the other compatibility issues, well so far the DVD sides of DualDiscs work in every DVD player, and the CD sides work in every vanilla CD player (including car ones).
The only players where the CD layer sometimes has issues, is in some DVD players (but then that’s what the DVD side is for), and also some [Sony] CD/SACD players (well I can’t comment about them because I don’t have one).
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"As for the other compatibility issues, well so far the DVD sides of DualDiscs work in every DVD player, and the CD sides work in every vanilla CD player (including car ones).The only players where the CD layer sometimes has issues, is in some DVD players (but then that’s what the DVD side is for), and also some [Sony] CD/SACD players (well I can’t comment about them because I don’t have one)."
Herein lies the big problem for me. The only CD players I have hooked up to my system are two Sony CD/SACD players and a DVD-Audio/Video player. Hence I really cannot play the CD side on my home system. I do have the DVD-Audio player for that, but what happens if someday I do not have a DVD-Audio player - then I cannot play the Donnas disc. I guess I could go out and buy the CD at that time, but that defeats the purpose of the DualDisc.
I do have a plain vanilla CD player in the closet (a Denon circa 1987), but I haven't used it in years and I don't plan on using it just to play one disc. I also have the Sony CE775 boxed up in the closet, and I read a post on the Hoffman board where someone had no problems playing the CD side in that player, but again I am not going to hook up that player just for one disc.
. . . I'd like to know what you think of the 96kHz/24bit 5.1 MLP mix sound quality? (And the music/songs, of course.) Also, what are the extras like?
The 5.1 mix is OK. Nothing to write home about. Most of the mix comes from the front three channels, with vocals, bass and kick drum (as well as snare) from the center channel speaker. Right and left front are mostly guitars and other drums. The rears are used for room ambience and drum/cymbal "slap echo".Sound quality of OK - not great. As for the extras I didn't watch them yet, but there appears to be two video options (one I understand is a video and the other is a "making of" mini-documentary).
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