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In Reply to: Re: You forget that the non classical/jazz stuff is probably the larger chunk of the sacd sales. posted by jdaniel@jps.net on October 25, 2004 at 06:33:30:
to assume that Sony went to all this trouble just to create a niche market.It's a no brainer that CD/sa-cd/DVDA/DualDisc album formats have to compete with DVD music video and each other.
It's narrow minded to assume that DVDAudio would be the odd one out.
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Wait a minute, you guys are always saying Sony didn't go to any trouble. They tried SACD, found who wanted it, moved on.SACD is competing with DVD video???
DVDA is the odd man out because it was marketed to the I-pod crowd. The video crowd. Fish. Trees. Everything but the audiophile crowd.
> > > Wait a minute, you guys are always saying Sony didn't go to any trouble. They tried SACD, found who wanted it, moved on.To DualDisc releases.
> > > SACD is competing with DVD video???
Every entertainment format is competing for the consumers buck.Who will buy an opera on sac-d when you can have the DVD Video.
> > > DVDA is the odd man out because it was marketed to the I-pod crowd. The video crowd. Fish. Trees. Everything but the audiophile crowd.
Only an idiot believes this to be true.
Frank
I bought a few operas on DVD-V, and were less than impressed. the audio quality (even on those with PCM audio tracks) were noticeably inferior to my CDs.Besides, as John Culshaw pointed out, there are lots of advantages to listening to opera as opposed to watching it. The "theatre of the mind" can often be superior to shoddy productions, bad set designs and hammy acting.
> > > Wait a minute, you guys are always saying Sony didn't go to any trouble. They tried SACD, found who wanted it, moved on.> > To DualDisc releases.
They've addressed the needs of the audiophile with SACD, and now it's back luring the Ipod teenieboppers with dual disc.
> > > SACD is competing with DVD video???
Every entertainment format is competing for the consumers buck.> > Who will buy an opera on sac-d when you can have the DVD Video.
Umm...problem: the DVD video would be in PCM, we're beyond that now in whatever incarnation. A majority of machine makers, critics, and engineers prefer SACD, even if it costs more and is more complicated.
> > > DVDA is the odd man out because it was marketed to the I-pod crowd. The video crowd. Fish. Trees. Everything but the audiophile crowd.
> > Only an idiot believes this to be true.
Very true: hiding DVDA in dual disc with all its promise of video, etc is like dousing cooked snails with ketchup.
Finally, the SACD numbers are suspicious, and don't jive with Universal's gloomy commentary on DVDA sales. I wonder if only single-layer SACDs were counted. I remember last year this was horribly embarrassing for y'all to find out after popping the Champagne bottles.
If you had any brains you could easily understand that non hybrid sac-d can't have shipped 600000 items. non hybrid sac-d releases are virtually extinct.
SACD shipped 300,000 in Jan/Jun 2004. DVDA shipped 300,000 in Jan/Jun. The high expections built in to the DVDA business model, (must sell millions to the Circuit City crowd), along with its replacement by the DVDA-hostile dual disc, ensures DVDA's demise.
Slight correction.600000 where shipped the same period previous year. (makes little difference since non hybrid releases where nearly extinct back then as well.)
That is a 50% drop.
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