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In Reply to: Re: I didnt know the hi rez flip disk even started, aside from the seattle-boston experiment... posted by patrickU on April 07, 2004 at 10:12:56:
here in good'ol US of A we'll talk until your ears drop or post until theres no bandwidth left :-) le silence est dor nest ce pas :)?I understand that these flip disk thickness are well within established spec (to such extent that even those a few sigma off will still remain < max tolerance) but some players are not, hence the *expected* incompatibility..curious to see what they quoted as the incidence rate, which is really the important question???
i guess the player manufacturers had to cut corners to...not make those disks fit :-)
As for the IP issue I thought that the DVDs had been using the "concept" of dual side for a while irrespective of the type of content...may be not...
Regardless, going from these 2 points to extrapolate a market share adoption failure of the hi-rez dual format/dual disk..seems a bit premature...theres the media spin for you IMO..whats your feel about it from what you read/know/own experience with dual disks?
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> > I understand that these flip disk thickness are well within established spec (to such extent that even those a few sigma off will still remain < max tolerance) < <To add to this, it would not be difficult to ‘weed-out’ any out-of-spec disks, in-process, on the production line (if indeed any unacceptable dimensional variation did occur) using basic metrology equipment at the final-inspection stage. Then there would be zero out-of-spec discs released from the factory.
Actually, a pressing operation such as is used for audio media would probably show a gradual and predictable thickness shift within the tolerance band, which could probably be foreseen and prevented using SPC techniques ("statistical-process-control", or "six-sigma" etc), so the operator would know when to reset the machine, and start a new batch, to eliminate any shift to outside the allowable tolerance band.
I doubt Barry Fox has really studied SPC ( "Six-Sigma" — is what GE likes to call it).
Did sell? I hear they did well.
Yep, like hot cakes. Some folks on E-bay managed to get $50 for each one!
Not bad, is there any talk of more titles?
Ah, now that's top secret!
Do´r..Am I childish? I think so...The problem is, it was a small test, and there a few glinches...What about the mass market? That may trouble the industry...
I think that we have difficult times...Flip discs...SACD II....Everywhere the same skeptisism....SACD II would have the same problems with players as it MAY be now with the new discs.
No I have not, ( In Europe fully unknowed ) but as I recently discussed in Paris with Eric, I don´t like the idea..He likes it...So every one takes his pics!
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