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In Reply to: Do You Believe The Price Simply Equals The Sum Of The Prices Of The Parts Involved? posted by thetubeguy1954 on October 26, 2006 at 09:41:52:
TB54 - First you are probably mistaken about the drivers being used. If Roger is using Peerless drivers (I honestly don't know what drivers he's actually using) it's most likely the Peerless V-Line TG9SFD10-04 3.5" Full Range Shielded @ $33.95ea and not Peerless TG9FD10. The IDS site specifically states " the entire magnet assembly is shielded" which the Peerless TG9FD10 isn't.No, I simply short handed the entire model#. Yours is the *exact* one if you so please. Audibly, there will be little if any perceptible difference between them after DSP. Dig?
Plus, what is the relevance of having a $19K *shielded* 8' tall speaker speaker? Who the heck is going to have spend that much and have it close to a CRT LOL?TB - Then your implication that $19K is somehow out of wack for this speaker via the comment "$19k for a pair for speakers that use the the Peerless TG9FD10 that I bought from Madisound for $20? Hmmm..." Reveals your understanding of how a business decides apon the price they market a product at is limited. It's not simply 48 drivers X $33.95 plus wood, as it would be for a DIYer.
You always seem to read far more into what you think I might have said that what I actually said. The above/below is all your words, not mine.
Understanding of Business? Who the heck was talking about that? Do you understand what "break-up" treble is? No amount of DSP can correct this inherent behavior of the diaphram. Settle down Beavis.TB54 -As IDS is a business.
Yeah, I gathered that. More power to him. A trusted set of ears heard them and said they didn't sound too shabby. I'd most likely like them overall, but as I've stated before, we each have our preferences. I prefer more point source behavior. Might not sound as grand on large works, but more accurate on solo. YMMV.
TB54 - So in addition to the price of the parts in the speakers & equalizer, there are employee's salaries to consider, utilities, insurance, rent and I'm sure many more expenses I cannot even imagine as I've never owned a business. Roger graduated from Eensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y. with a degree in Electrical Engineering. For 25 years Roger was the Director of Acoustic Research at McIntosh Laboratory Inc. doing what he like best-- creating better sound. Roger initiated the loudspeaker line at McIntosh, developed many new concepts, received several patents and wrote several magazine articles. As his email is available to the public via his website, I'd suggest you email him (he lives in FLA like you) at rogerr4 (at) earthlink.net with any questions you have on his pricing scheme.
Roger sounds like a swell guy. I must tell you that I have *never* heard a McIntosh speaker that I liked and I have heard many, icluding large LA's (there has been is a dealer locally for years that I have been to many a time). Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
TB54 - I think you just prefer arguing or dissenting as a way of provoking others into debates. I noticed when I responded quite nicely to your Quadrapole post by stating "Wow AJinFLA! What a find! Who makes these speakers? I'd like to read more about them..." You totally ignored my question and response. Yet when I post about Roger Russell, a well respected speaker designer and one of your fellow Objectivists (a man I have great respect for) has created a new speaker and here it is for all to see. Now you have something to say and it's not what I'd call a basically postive reply.
Oh well maybe one of these days...Jeez man, take it easy. You are so easily offended by nothing. Ignore you? Did you not see the link I provided you in the very same post? Emerald Physics does not have a website yet. I have spoken to the designer and they intend to have one as soon as possibly. Like every good designer, he is an objectivist and promises the site will have all the technical details, no voodoo mumbo jumbo type crap, as I suspected when I saw the design. It is DSP controlled/tri-amplified (like my former rig), so probably isn't your bag (unless you want to spring for a couple more $$$Mastersounds LOL).
And yes, the sub is a Quadrupole, as I suspected. I e-mailed Linkwitz to discuss, since no one here seemed interested or possibly had any knowledge of such.
Enjoy your music and quit worrying about what you think I might have said.cheers,
AJ
The threshold for disproving something is higher than the threshold for saying it, which is a recipe for the accumulation of bullshit - Softky
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- Sigh - AJinFLA 17:41:07 10/26/06 (1)
- YES Sigh Indeed - thetubeguy1954 06:38:39 10/27/06 (0)
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