In Reply to: Why SACD isn't good for commercial recordings... posted by ducati on April 26, 2003 at 07:00:49:
*sigh*The reason DSD has more noise at 80khz is that it uses noise shaping to shift noise out into the ultra high frequencies. This is the point, there is no point wasting bits on the utlra high frequencies, they are only needed such that a gentle filter is possible, and a side effect of the samlping rate needed within the audible range.
This is why SACD quality is greater than 192/24, and possible on all 8 channels stored on the disc (i.e full rez on the 2 stereo channels and full rez on the 6 MultiCh Channels). You can't achieve 192/24 on all channels on DVD-A, because it wastes its bit allocation keeping the same ultra-low noise floor all the way up to its frequency limit.
Fact is, the ultimate noise floor has never been the issue with digital. Vinyl has an attrocious noise floor compared to CD, but still creams it. SACD's noise floor within the audible range is way more than needed, and ultimately not the limiting factor in any complete system.
Finally, comments relating to a particular player can't be taken as gospel for entire format. Of course Sony are interested in making money, theyre a commercial enterprise. Are they interested in Audiophiles ? This is clearly evidencesd by their marketing approach, and the fact that SACD does not have watermarking and has mandated stereo as requested by audiophile circles.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Why SACD isn't good for commercial recordings... - SnaggS 19:14:30 04/26/03 (40)
- OK... - ducati 07:35:57 04/27/03 (39)
- Finally someone who's on my wavelength! - gdg 20:34:56 04/29/03 (0)
- Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - SnaggS 00:44:42 04/29/03 (15)
- It's not. This document contains too much marketing rubbish.. - Frank 13:19:54 04/29/03 (4)
- Meridian debunk your comments too, seems most scientists do. - SnaggS 15:02:42 04/29/03 (3)
- You're not a scientist... - Frank 15:22:31 04/29/03 (2)
- Just out of interest, whats your thought on midband - SnaggS 16:19:12 04/29/03 (1)
- PCM - Frank 14:31:00 04/30/03 (0)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - ducati 06:11:33 04/29/03 (9)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - SnaggS 06:44:16 04/29/03 (8)
- Good arguments but.... - RdH 07:56:24 04/29/03 (5)
- Yes and No - SnaggS 08:19:25 04/29/03 (4)
- Re: Yes and No - Frank 13:06:24 04/29/03 (3)
- Grasping at straws. - SnaggS 15:04:10 04/29/03 (2)
- Nope.. - Frank 15:37:19 04/29/03 (1)
- Thats the day I'll stop buying music.... - SnaggS 16:15:24 04/29/03 (0)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - ducati 06:58:31 04/29/03 (1)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - SnaggS 08:05:17 04/29/03 (0)
- Absurd : All real products have limitiations - SnaggS 00:15:31 04/29/03 (11)
- I do not agree with Sony's limitations, though!! - ducati 06:00:51 04/29/03 (10)
- PS. Do you actually have a Ducati ? {nt} - SnaggS 06:57:36 04/29/03 (3)
- Of course, a Monster :) - ducati 07:08:36 04/29/03 (2)
- My next bike will be a duke.... - SnaggS 08:07:29 04/29/03 (1)
- The Monsters are comfy... - ducati 05:43:32 04/30/03 (0)
- Ok, ok - SnaggS 06:56:08 04/29/03 (5)
- Re: Ok, ok - John Kotches 10:20:34 04/29/03 (2)
- Harvest! and a web blog has no credibility - SnaggS 14:57:33 04/29/03 (1)
- Re: Harvest! and a web blog has no credibility - John Kotches 19:17:54 04/29/03 (0)
- Has anybody been able to compare 24/96 to 24/192 - RdH 08:11:13 04/29/03 (1)
- I stand corrected and ..... - SnaggS 08:31:21 04/29/03 (0)
- ...and the crowd goes wild. Great post! - RdH 10:32:56 04/27/03 (5)
- Could be... - ducati 11:22:41 04/27/03 (4)
- Re: Could be... - John Kotches 11:50:33 04/28/03 (1)
- Re: Could be... - ducati 11:53:54 04/28/03 (0)
- What DVD-A players have you checked out? - RdH 13:31:46 04/27/03 (1)
- Re: What DVD-A players have you checked out? - ducati 14:19:56 04/27/03 (0)
- Ducati, what do you use to record in 24/96 ? (nt) - Eric LeRouge 10:08:20 04/27/03 (3)
- Live recording... - ducati 11:27:05 04/27/03 (2)
- Man oh Man, that looks great - Eric LeRouge 11:49:51 04/27/03 (1)
- Yep... - ducati 14:11:20 04/27/03 (0)