In Reply to: To be honest with you, SnaggS... posted by ducati on April 25, 2003 at 06:20:52:
I agree, SACD is not targeted for home/personal recording. Infact, its this very reason which is why no embedded watermarking is required. Your comments on how excellent DVD-V is for personal recording I agree with entirely. Your Sony $$$ conspiracy theory & diatribe I won't bother commenting on.I said as much in my post
"DVD-A is a good format for extra's, video clips and possibly home recording if you can afford all the gear needed"
Meaning, that I think DVD-V is possibly better if you can't afford to buy the software for DVD-A or the DACS to record 192/24. I was a bit dissapointed to find that to take advantage of MLP, it was going to cost an addition US$5k+ or something. Would have been great to have MLP to make long DVD-A albums.
Still, SACD is better for commercial music purchasing, that is all. Hence my suggestion of a Universal player, because, as you pointed out, SACD is unlikely to ever be a home recording format.Yes I'm biased against DVD-A in the area of commercial software, but somebody has to put forward all the points which the others here forget to mention with regard to DVD-A. Otherwise you would get a very one sided view. Note I also recommended a Universal player, I didn't say don't get something with DVD-A capability.
As for those who say why don't I tell them what where I can hear the watermark. I've already addressed this by saying, how can I do this comparison without a Verance free recording to compare with ?
Recording engineers have done this comparison and found the watermark clearly audible, Warner themselves addmitted it was audible, by definition the watermark must be audible, so why is this even in doubt ? They may be correct it saying the difference is so small, its hardly worth being concerned about. This is different from denying its audible. It is these inaccuracies and untruths I find offensive.
Anyways, I had stopped posting here, until Frank and cohorts started at me in the SACD forum. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Daniel.
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Follow Ups
- Note that I did say it was good for recording. - SnaggS 22:32:37 04/25/03 (53)
- Except for..... - John Kotches 08:54:12 04/26/03 (10)
- Ok, let me be clear, DVD-A is much better than SACD for home recording. - SnaggS 18:59:02 04/26/03 (9)
- You can have 7 hours of 16/44.1 music on a DVD-A without MLP - Eric LeRouge 04:38:36 04/27/03 (8)
- ATRAC is not worse - SnaggS 05:05:00 04/27/03 (7)
- I do agree with Snaggle about ATRAC-R - ducati 07:44:27 04/27/03 (3)
- But couldn't I get 14 hours with MLP ? - SnaggS 23:57:41 04/28/03 (2)
- Re: But couldn't I get 14 hours with MLP ? - ducati 06:12:35 04/29/03 (1)
- Argg... MP3 sounds bad :( - SnaggS 08:10:42 04/29/03 (0)
- This is a first, most people say otherwise. But just out of curiosity... - Eric LeRouge 07:43:16 04/27/03 (2)
- Editing on the road - SnaggS 00:01:59 04/29/03 (1)
- Nice friend you have - Eric LeRouge 10:18:08 04/29/03 (0)
- Why SACD isn't good for commercial recordings... - ducati 07:00:49 04/26/03 (41)
- Re: Why SACD isn't good for commercial recordings... - SnaggS 19:14:30 04/26/03 (40)
- OK... - ducati 07:35:57 04/27/03 (39)
- Finally someone who's on my wavelength! - gdg 20:34:56 04/29/03 (0)
- Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - SnaggS 00:44:42 04/29/03 (15)
- It's not. This document contains too much marketing rubbish.. - Frank 13:19:54 04/29/03 (4)
- Meridian debunk your comments too, seems most scientists do. - SnaggS 15:02:42 04/29/03 (3)
- You're not a scientist... - Frank 15:22:31 04/29/03 (2)
- Just out of interest, whats your thought on midband - SnaggS 16:19:12 04/29/03 (1)
- PCM - Frank 14:31:00 04/30/03 (0)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - ducati 06:11:33 04/29/03 (9)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - SnaggS 06:44:16 04/29/03 (8)
- Good arguments but.... - RdH 07:56:24 04/29/03 (5)
- Yes and No - SnaggS 08:19:25 04/29/03 (4)
- Re: Yes and No - Frank 13:06:24 04/29/03 (3)
- Grasping at straws. - SnaggS 15:04:10 04/29/03 (2)
- Nope.. - Frank 15:37:19 04/29/03 (1)
- Thats the day I'll stop buying music.... - SnaggS 16:15:24 04/29/03 (0)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - ducati 06:58:31 04/29/03 (1)
- Re: Why DSD is the best choice as a digital format : Read the PDF - SnaggS 08:05:17 04/29/03 (0)
- Absurd : All real products have limitiations - SnaggS 00:15:31 04/29/03 (11)
- I do not agree with Sony's limitations, though!! - ducati 06:00:51 04/29/03 (10)
- PS. Do you actually have a Ducati ? {nt} - SnaggS 06:57:36 04/29/03 (3)
- Of course, a Monster :) - ducati 07:08:36 04/29/03 (2)
- My next bike will be a duke.... - SnaggS 08:07:29 04/29/03 (1)
- The Monsters are comfy... - ducati 05:43:32 04/30/03 (0)
- Ok, ok - SnaggS 06:56:08 04/29/03 (5)
- Re: Ok, ok - John Kotches 10:20:34 04/29/03 (2)
- Harvest! and a web blog has no credibility - SnaggS 14:57:33 04/29/03 (1)
- Re: Harvest! and a web blog has no credibility - John Kotches 19:17:54 04/29/03 (0)
- Has anybody been able to compare 24/96 to 24/192 - RdH 08:11:13 04/29/03 (1)
- I stand corrected and ..... - SnaggS 08:31:21 04/29/03 (0)
- ...and the crowd goes wild. Great post! - RdH 10:32:56 04/27/03 (5)
- Could be... - ducati 11:22:41 04/27/03 (4)
- Re: Could be... - John Kotches 11:50:33 04/28/03 (1)
- Re: Could be... - ducati 11:53:54 04/28/03 (0)
- What DVD-A players have you checked out? - RdH 13:31:46 04/27/03 (1)
- Re: What DVD-A players have you checked out? - ducati 14:19:56 04/27/03 (0)
- Ducati, what do you use to record in 24/96 ? (nt) - Eric LeRouge 10:08:20 04/27/03 (3)
- Live recording... - ducati 11:27:05 04/27/03 (2)
- Man oh Man, that looks great - Eric LeRouge 11:49:51 04/27/03 (1)
- Yep... - ducati 14:11:20 04/27/03 (0)