In Reply to: Just make sure your informed... posted by SnaggS on April 24, 2003 at 20:23:47:
Snaggs has been asked to provide one sample in which he has heard the watermark - so far no response on this question. Warner has been known to use watermarks but it is not mandatory for DVD-A. *Many* labels may choose not to use watermarks. Perhaps Snaggs would be kind enough to provide a list of the labels and albums that are being watermarked. In addition, SACD also has a provision for watermarks. http://www.mpg.org.uk/watermarkingreport.htm Watermarks are potentially audible regardless of the format and there are different levels that may be applied. Copy protection on CDs is also a reality in some markets…Both DVD-A and SACD will not achieve the same sound as in the studio - both will remain recordings of music. Often this music will be compiled track by track, manipulated, and then placed onto the consumer media. From what I understand, manipulation of the tracks is still a task that is often performed with PCM tools.
http://www.chesky.com/forum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=23&Topic=92 You will find people have different *opinions* of which format is better – recording engineers are included in the category of people. I like what I hear from DVD-A but I suspect I would also like SACD if I had comparable equipment to play it with. Due to redbook being the dominant media, I decided to place my resources into a system that can do redbook well with DVD-A being a bonus. There is material on SACD that I would enjoy in a high-rez format but I’m not convinced that SACD will be the ultimate victor in the format war. I suspect that SACD will become a niche product for the audiophile community and DVD-A will become the mass market media – not a glowing recommendation for either format.DTS does release DVD-A recordings: http://www.dtsentertainment.com/ but they also release DVD-V recordings too. If it doesn’t specify that it is a DVD-A or have the DVD-A logo on it, then it is not a DVD-A. SACD has ‘stealth’ recordings where there is no indication of the disk being SACD – I was looking at the remastered Rolling Stones disks tonight which are an example. As a result it is helpful to have a few reference sites that list the SACDs so that you can identify them.
Both high-rez formats do not allow unencrypted digital output. This is supposed to protect the content from being copied. There are groups working on standards for passing this data but at the moment it is proprietary solutions. Firewire has been suggested but some groups have rejected it due to problems with the quality of the transmission. Firewire was never designed to maintain time-domain integrity (i.e. jitter). HMDI is a contender for the digital link standard http://www.hdmi.org/ .
Snaggs seems fond of providing misinformation – perhaps he is looking for a job in Iraq - talks about it a great deal. The only reasonible information to be found in this post is the recommendation of a universal player - if you can find one that satisfies you.
Rod.
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Follow Ups
- Just make sure you are MORE informed... - RdH 23:04:19 04/24/03 (13)
- Re: You, too... - williak 11:23:53 04/25/03 (11)
- Easy now ;) - RdH 12:48:19 04/25/03 (4)
- Re: OK, I'm easy... - williak 14:28:07 04/25/03 (3)
- Great post. Thanks! <nt> - RdH 16:42:29 04/25/03 (0)
- Doesn't HDMI use several wires? - Frank 14:58:05 04/25/03 (1)
- Re: Doesn't HDMI use several wires? - williak 15:21:10 04/25/03 (0)
- Re: You, too... - Eric LeRouge 11:47:35 04/25/03 (5)
- Re: Nothing... - williak 11:57:27 04/25/03 (4)
- I'm listening - Eric LeRouge 12:57:43 04/25/03 (3)
- Re: Jeez, I'm bitchy today... - williak 14:40:55 04/25/03 (2)
- I know just what you mean, it's been a lousy century so far - Eric LeRouge 15:31:41 04/25/03 (1)
- Re: I know just what you mean, it's been a lousy century so far - williak 15:48:18 04/25/03 (0)
- You make great points... - rick5 06:45:51 04/25/03 (0)